[AnotherUnixGeek]

So yes, war is hell — but have you considered the alternatives?

Yes. War created the United States - an absolute positive for the world in the last 200 years. War ended slavery in the US. War ended the subjugation of Europe and the extermination of the Jews and Gypsies by the Nazis. War has ended genocide in Bangladesh and in the former Yugoslavia since then. War is sometimes necessary for the long-term good of the human race - and those who willfully blind themselves to that fact don't do the human race any favors.

[ansel12]

War didn’t create the United States, war largely enslaved Europe until Reagan freed it. Slavery was probably on it’s way out without war.

There are more slaves today than at any other time supposedly.