Nobody in the history of the world ever volunteered to have something like thumb screws or the iron boot applied to them. People volunteer for waterboarding and sleep deprivation. On the other hand I imagine having full knowledge and the choice to do it makes a big difference.
I can sympathize with those that are leery of it, if some official of a state ever ordered it done to me, I would probably considered myself tortured. But if you had knowledge of a bomb or something I might want that guy water boarded. Trusting the state to determine when to have this power is iffy though, and getting more iffy daily. The patriot act is only going to be used for domestic terrorism and all that.
Freegards
I understand the potential it will be used against us. I also understand it can ALL be used against us.
I get what you are saying. I understand completely. But to be honest, I just do not care one iota about the life of people that want me dead. they made the choice to do what they do. I do not feel obligated to be remotely nice in return.
the scenario you pose is just another example why it is so crucially important that we elect people of principle instead of going for the almighty win with moral deficient idiots. We need people that are most likely to never turn that against us.
I do not for a second think the crew we have now in either party with about 5 exceptions would bat an eye about torturing us if it got them what they want. Because they are moral deficient idiots. They kill overseas with no legal backing. they will eventually do it here.