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1 posted on 04/29/2014 8:36:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway; Gay State Conservative; TurboZamboni
Where some see a bright line, some see a totally justified murder shooting.
2 posted on 04/29/2014 8:49:18 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: nickcarraway

Bad facts make for bad law.


3 posted on 04/29/2014 8:49:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: nickcarraway
I guess the writer assumed that everyone that read his column knew all about this story. Well, I read the column and still do not know the story.

I think there is a lot of money to be made in this country by someone who opens a Journalism school that teaches Journalism.

4 posted on 04/29/2014 8:52:27 PM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: nickcarraway

From the article: “It proves we do have a castle doctrine and it does work,” Cornish said. “If somebody tries to claim the doctrine in absurd times, it doesn’t hold.”

That brings up an interesting side-point. Here’s the thing the rampaging media gets intentionally wrong about castle doctrines and stand your ground laws - even in states where there is a legal duty to retreat, if a violent criminal were to forcibly prevent you from retreating by, for the sake of argument, pinning you to the ground and beating your head against the concrete until you were likely to suffer severe bodily harm or death, then it really doesn’t matter much if there’s a duty to retreat or not as you are physically prevented from doing so.

The Zimmerman verdict would have justifiably been exactly the same in a state without the so-called “stand your ground” laws, as any legal duty Zimmerman may or may not have had to retreat was immaterial in the face of the fact that Martin removed Zimmerman’s ABILITY to retreat.

But then facts never really support the media’s social engineering narrative, so they have to make do with the next best thing: blatant and shameless falsehood. They’ve got a mission and they’ll pursue it regardless of how many lies and baseless accusations they have to rapid-fire at the American consciousness.


5 posted on 04/29/2014 8:57:47 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: nickcarraway

If a cop fears for his life, he gets a pass for killing someone even if he used factually unnecessary force.

If a homeowner is terrorized and loses control because of the terrorism and kills out of unbalanced insanity triggered by the terrorism, he’s given first degree conviction.

Not right.


7 posted on 04/29/2014 9:09:39 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Suspected his neighbor had broken in a few days before. Hid his car to make it look like he wasn’t home. Sat in ambush in the basement and sure enough, one broke in. He recorded himself killing that one. Dragged the body out of sight.

10 min later the female accomplice comes in and he shoots her too. Drags her to the corner. Notices she’s gasping for air, so gets a 22 and administers what he called “a nice clean finishing shot” right under her chin.

Waits till the next day, and tells a neighbor to call the cops.

This is not a home defense hero we need to stand behind here. He’s a psychopath and a threat to gun rights.


9 posted on 04/29/2014 9:22:03 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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I will protect myself, my loved ones, my property and innocents but rest assured I not want to be in a situation where I am on trial for doing it.

it will be a roll of the dice these days.

Some years ago the relative of a family friend stayed home from work to help his wife care for their 3 young children, the newborn being sick. It was early in the morning and his wife got in the vehicle in the garage and left for the store about the time he usually went to work.

Shortly thereafter 5 males, some or all armed kicked in the door and swarmed in. They had been watching the house for a week and thought that the wife would be home alone with the kids.

They thought that the vehicle leaving was him going to work.

He got in a gunfight with them, killing 2, paralyzing 1 and the other 2 were later caught at the hospital.

He called 911 and used some "inflammatory" language.

The local chapter of a well known "civil rights organization" took to the streets and he was arrested and prosecuted for 1st degree murder.

He was acquitted but...

11 posted on 04/29/2014 9:25:55 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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“This case is big. This is Minnesota’s Trayvon Martin case,” prosecutor Pete Orput said before the Byron Smith murder trial.

Man. It would be a shame if someone beat Pete Orput till he puked blood, for being a lying sack of Obama.

14 posted on 04/29/2014 10:05:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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