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Russian separatists down 2 choppers, fighting spreads to Odessa as Ukraine teeters
Fox News ^ | May 02, 2014 | Fox News

Posted on 05/02/2014 4:48:33 PM PDT by BurningOak

Pro-Russian separatists shot down two helicopters in a key eastern Ukrainian city, and fighting in the port city of Odessa triggered a fire that killed dozens, as the embattled nation moved closer to the brink of civil war.

Interim Ukraine President Oleksandr Turchynov said "many" pro-Russia rebels have been killed, injured and arrested in a major offensive to regain control of Slavyansk, though it was not clear if the Kiev-backed forces had succeeded. Russia reacted angrily to the offensive by Ukrainian security forces, calling for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council after a spokesman for President Vladimir Putin warned it "effectively destroyed the last hope for the implementation of the Geneva agreements."

In the Black Sea port city of Odessa, Ukraine's third-largest city, a fire that broke out in a trade union building amid clashes killed 31. Fighting there represented another ominous milestone in the conflict that threatens to become a full-blown civil war, as Odessa holds huge historic significance for Russians and Ukrainians alike.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: civilwar; obamafail; russia; ukraine
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To: ncalburt
The Ukrainian Army is killing civilians.

The civilians are Ukrainian.

The Maidan crowd claim to be the government of the Ukraine.

The present government of the Ukraine has commanded the Ukrainian Army to kill Ukrainian civilians.

Straight forward, PERIOD.

The crowd in Kiev is just another bunch of thugs no different than the last bunch of thugs.

181 posted on 05/02/2014 8:11:03 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

...”they’ll be having more Army units defect to the separatists if they keep trying to bulldoze their way through civilian protesters”...

Good point!...I’m waiting to see if the General of the Army doesn’t just say the heck with this and take over Kiev’s Gov. and end it all right there. Let Ukraine’s military run things til things cool own. Of course the US wouldn’t ever go along with that.


182 posted on 05/02/2014 8:11:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: 1rudeboy
And can you believe this group of radical fascists pushed Russia to the breaking point? I mean, to where Russia had to invade and occupy Crimea?

Do you realize that the Crimean port of Sevastopol is Russia's ONLY year-round warm water port? It has been a strategic Russian naval base for centuries, and Russia absolutely must hold Crimea to defend itself. There was no way Moscow was going to allow Sevastopol to fall into NATO's hands after we helped overthrow the elected government in Kiev. NATO has been on the offensive since 1994, adding 12 new Central and Eastern European member nations right up to the borders of Russia itself. So far, Russia is still on defense.

183 posted on 05/02/2014 8:11:42 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: caww
Odessa is heartbreaking...the Maiden burned their own people and watched as people jumped from the building. Most young kids, heck the girls making the cocktails were 14 yrs. they said!

and you believed Russian media, tsk tsk tsk

184 posted on 05/02/2014 8:12:55 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: caww

Thanks Caww. Good info.


185 posted on 05/02/2014 8:12:58 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Always A Marine

“I doubt Moscow is buying that argument.”

If I was Russia, I would be wondering why the US is expending so much money & effort supporting terrorists and unscrupulous folk in Russia friendly countries who host Russia’s warm water ports.


186 posted on 05/02/2014 8:14:31 PM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

See two sides yet? I know you are ... so need to elaborate.


187 posted on 05/02/2014 8:14:57 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: ncalburt

“KGB”

Your an idiot of course, but you already knew that... I’m sure your mom and dad shared that with you in your youth.

I’m not sure if there is a “KGB” anymore... I think the NSA bought them out a few years back. Kind of like the MSM bought out Pravda...

I don’t know exactly what’s going on over there, and frankly I don’t care. I’m sure Obama will be on the side of the terrorist though. He always seems to be.


188 posted on 05/02/2014 8:16:37 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Uncle Miltie
my apology ... so no need.
189 posted on 05/02/2014 8:16:45 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: babygene

exactly we can always depend on zer0 and his minions to side with the wrong side or cause WWIII.


190 posted on 05/02/2014 8:18:17 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: tcrlaf
14 year old girls breaking up the pavement for Maidan to throw. So that they could burn the Trade Union Building. Awful stuff going on there...


191 posted on 05/02/2014 8:18:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: no-to-illegals

It’s the easiest way to know of you’re on the side of the angels. Do the opposite of Obama. Has not failed yet.


192 posted on 05/02/2014 8:19:16 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: ncalburt

Putinas the man!

Leader of the free world...

/s Dumm A$$..


193 posted on 05/02/2014 8:24:05 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: caww

Lordy ... Caww ... any clue on who called up the children?


194 posted on 05/02/2014 8:24:41 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Always A Marine
I find it amazing that someone feels the need to remind me about warm-water ports, and how Russia wants them. I'm a (disparaged) Cold Warrior, that way.

And the audacity of these poor little countries on Russia's periphery seeking protection . . . can you imagine? Their desire to do so makes them an existential threat to the Russian Empire.

195 posted on 05/02/2014 8:25:01 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: babygene

Hey, there’s a group of us that trade shirtless Vlad the dreamboat pics. you want in? ;)


196 posted on 05/02/2014 8:25:16 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: no-to-illegals

Thanks but I have to be sure to have my helmet on venturing to do so, some borrow rocks from Maidan!


197 posted on 05/02/2014 8:25:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Stay Safe Caww ... Anything anything friend you can share ... would be appreciated.


198 posted on 05/02/2014 8:27:51 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: BurningOak

No, but he did invade Libya, while wrecking the governments of Tunisia and Egypt using the Soros NGO’s.

Did you just forget that part?


199 posted on 05/02/2014 8:28:08 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

And stop the homosexuals from adopting and buggering Russian infants.


200 posted on 05/02/2014 8:28:23 PM PDT by sport
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