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To: Mariner
The other is that a bunch of Western "Fascists", aided by NATO Security Services overthrew the legitimately elected government and are intent to mortgage Urkranian assets and culture to Berlin.

What evidence do you have of that. What street videos I saw were unorganized and showed a lot of individual commitment and casualties. And I have NO DOUBT that Vlad is stoking the fire with spec ops.

53 posted on 05/02/2014 9:51:07 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Texas Fossil
"What evidence do you have of that."

Maidan.

56 posted on 05/02/2014 9:54:52 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Texas Fossil

If or not that is true....it’s significant and important to watch closely Germany in these political dynamics.

Merkly has been relatively mild in her statements, afraid very much from the beginning, of the Nazi element in Ukraine. She has not wanted this to rise nor be media fodder and thus there was an “order” the media US and EU media were not to use the word Nazi when this first began, and especially when it was clear they were rising to the occasion.

Additionally it was already established that if this became an issue to deny as long as possible.....Merkle knows well how the Nazi element operates in her own country and can spot it rising in a flash. She’s had her hands plenty full dealing with her cabinet on this probility, who saw it coming as well.

The Ukraine people certainly sae it and felt it early on...even the Maidan protesters saw their protest being hijacked, many have written about seeing the violence errupt and who was inciting it.

But at any rate...here they are fighting ‘a culture war’ among the citizens......a “political war” among the outside nations wanting control,... and surely a mass invasion of paid and well equipped mercenaries, along with various other groups willing to take up the fight ‘for either side’ who can and will pay them to do so.

It’s going to be a very long battle.....and one the USA has no business in being there, nor putting our men in harms way...period! EU wasn’t prepared for battle...and we do not have to be ‘their hammer’ to contain a war that will surely ensue with Russia unless better minds come up with a solution.


161 posted on 05/06/2014 11:27:01 PM PDT by caww
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