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BREAKING: House Will Vote Today on Lerner Contempt
Town Hall ^ | 5/6/14 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 05/06/2014 9:46:21 AM PDT by Nachum

The House of Representatives will vote today, Tuesday, at 5 pm on whether to hold former head of tax exempt groups at the IRS Lois Lerner in contempt of Congress. Lerner was voted in contempt by the House Oversight Committee back in April after failing to answer questions from lawmakers. Many argue Lerner waived her Fifth Amendment rights last year because she made an opening statement declaring her innocence before claiming she wanted to remain silent.


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1 posted on 05/06/2014 9:46:21 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

And the reputation of the house (very small h intended) rests in the balance.

If they screw the pooch on this one and let that lying wench loose, what little respect exists for that at collection of losers will evaporate.

(As for the senate, we’d be much aided if a meteor would wipe them out. All of them.)


2 posted on 05/06/2014 9:48:13 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

Except Ted Cruz.


3 posted on 05/06/2014 9:49:21 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Da Coyote

While Cruz and Lee are in the restroom.


4 posted on 05/06/2014 9:49:27 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Nachum

I’d say wake me when something is actually done to the criminal, but I don’t want to end up as Rumpelstiltskin.


5 posted on 05/06/2014 9:49:34 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Nachum

We known the RATs won’t break ranks, the only question is how many GOPers will vote to let her off the hook....


6 posted on 05/06/2014 9:51:04 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't give up! The liberals are buggering and aborting themselves into extinction.)
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To: Nachum

Yawn. This will amount to nothing, and we all know it. Just like Issa’s big show over Fast and Furious. NADA.


7 posted on 05/06/2014 9:51:12 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Nachum

lerner should be in jail. waterboard the bietch. Her retirement benefits should not be paid. she is a criminal and terrorist needs to be treated as one.


8 posted on 05/06/2014 9:51:19 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Nachum





9 posted on 05/06/2014 9:51:22 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Resolute Conservative; FourtySeven

Jeff Sessions deserves saving.


10 posted on 05/06/2014 9:52:33 AM PDT by grania
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To: Nachum

This vote will be a good way to determine if Republicans are willing to lead. If they decide no, then they shouldn’t expect any votes in November.


11 posted on 05/06/2014 9:52:50 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Nachum

Probably go strictly along party lines.


12 posted on 05/06/2014 9:54:08 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Nachum

Lerner has too much dirt on Obama, she will never be punished..


13 posted on 05/06/2014 9:57:09 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Nachum
Oh WOW! The House will vote on Contempt of Congress against Lois Learner.
Vote will be along party lines, so contempt is a given.
Does not matter since there will be no penalty for Ms Learner. Same as the “penalties” for Holder.
By citing Holder for contempt and not extracting punishment, The House has diminished their authority and pretty much negated their standing as an equal member of one half of one of the three branches of the government. So any citation of contempt will be looked upon as a badge of honor by the left and their media.
14 posted on 05/06/2014 9:57:38 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Nachum

I’m really looking forward to this summer! Democrats running around screaming and hiding. Watching the Democrats is like watching The Three Stooges. Which Democrat gets clunked in the head next?


15 posted on 05/06/2014 10:04:25 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

The DemocRATs at the Benghazi hearings... practicing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3wVOoYZ4EI


16 posted on 05/06/2014 10:06:07 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Signalman

Why the 5:00 p.m. timing? That’s near the peak of the daily news cycle. Will any network cover the votes as they’re recorded?

If the pubbies DO vote to hold Lerner in contempt, it’ll be breaking news, we now join in progress, stop the presses.

Curious timing, IMO.


17 posted on 05/06/2014 10:10:39 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Da Coyote
(As for the senate, we’d be much aided if a meteor would wipe them out. All of them.)

The Senate as now constituted is not as the Founders set it up. With passage of the 17th Amendment, States were required to popularly elect their Senators, rather than have them chosen by their states' legislatures, as was done until 1914.

What has developed is collection of multi-millionaires who have become so at taxpayers expense and are self-perpetuating based on the funds spent to re-elect them. They are much harder to remove without the oversight of the state legislatures.

This amendment also removed a key power of the sovereign states. If a state legislator with a two-year term hears from his constituents, who are few in number and hold his career in their hands, he is much more apt to discipline a Senator who acts against the interests of the citizens of a sovereign state.

Today's Republican Senators act directly against the wishes of their constituents on many issues. The way to bring these dogs to heel is to hold a Constitutional Convention of the States, as described in the constitution itself.

If Senators were elected by their legislatures, as they should be, there would immediately be a more conservative Senate. That's because even the worst Liberal states tend to have at least some conservative legislators,i.e. those usually elected from more rural rather than the urban districts populated by state-dependent minority voters. Case in point: New York State.

The Founders saw the Senate as a more mature, more conservative deliberative body, designed to hold in check any excesses engendered by a radical House!

18 posted on 05/06/2014 10:11:52 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Take congress in 2014. Have a Constitutional Convention of the States. Save the Republic.)
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To: Nachum

Perp walk her.


19 posted on 05/06/2014 10:13:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: clintonh8r

We can always count on the usual suspects to vote with the RATS. Just watch.


20 posted on 05/06/2014 10:14:11 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Nachum

I hope this doesn’t turn out to be straight party line vote.


21 posted on 05/06/2014 10:14:28 AM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Nachum

http://house.gov/representatives/

Call your representative, even if a Democrat.

They are all up for reelection in November, so tell them this vote will be a factor in voting decision.

We can’t make a difference unless we try.


22 posted on 05/06/2014 10:22:23 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Tupelo
Vote will be along party lines, so contempt is a given

I need to get me some of what you're smoking..............

23 posted on 05/06/2014 10:55:00 AM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

2PM pacific...stay tuned.


24 posted on 05/06/2014 10:57:29 AM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Rip Van Winkle?


25 posted on 05/06/2014 11:41:12 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: PhiloBedo

Oops. LOL. I guess I stunned everyone with my brilliance that time.


26 posted on 05/06/2014 12:18:09 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Nachum

they should have done this April 15 and sent a message


27 posted on 05/06/2014 12:36:50 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Nachum

28 posted on 05/06/2014 1:18:54 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: NormsRevenge

29 posted on 05/06/2014 1:20:43 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: hondact200

30 posted on 05/06/2014 1:22:46 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: elcid1970
Why the 5:00 p.m. timing? That’s near the peak of the daily news cycle.

It's timed for tomorrow's papers and morning news.

Will any network cover the votes as they’re recorded?

No, no more than they cover any other vote of congress live.

31 posted on 05/06/2014 1:23:46 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels"-- Tom Waits)
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To: Kenny Bunk
There were what were seen as good reasons for direct election of senators, and by the time the 17th Amendment was proposed, most states had gone to a system whereby the legislatures rubber stamped a popular vote. That's why it was ratified so quickly.

One effect the old system had was turning state legislature races into little more than referenda on senate candidates. Remember the Lincoln-Douglas debates, in which the two men campaigned up and down Illinois for the senate seat. People weren't voting for state legislators on the basis of state issues--they were voting for electors for senator who incidentally would hold state legislature seats.

Finally, a series of scandals demonstrated that it was pretty easy to buy a senate seat when you only had to bribe a few state legislators.

32 posted on 05/06/2014 1:33:10 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels"-- Tom Waits)
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To: Nachum

So, the vote is in about 20 minutes?


33 posted on 05/06/2014 1:40:16 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

The ‘60’s took a toll on everyone who lived through it. ;)


34 posted on 05/06/2014 1:50:27 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Crickets?


35 posted on 05/06/2014 2:22:57 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Bubba, I refuse to let the inconveniently accurate factual data at your command screw up my pet project!

In my own admittedly cursory review of our history, IIRC, there has never been such a collection of billionaire crooks and ass-klowns as we now have in the Senate.

state legislature races into little more than referenda on senate candidates.

True then. But now? Still preferable to popular election by today's idiotic majority-minority government-dependent voters of the big states. Do you, Bubba, really think that ANY state legislature would send an Al Franken to DC as a Senator?

36 posted on 05/06/2014 2:41:14 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Take congress in 2014. Have a Constitutional Convention of the States. Save the Republic.)
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To: RandallFlagg

I don’t know....Haven’t seen or heard diddlysquat.


37 posted on 05/06/2014 3:01:26 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't give up! The liberals are buggering and aborting themselves into extinction.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I think they would have sent Franken. Minnesota is full of idiots.


38 posted on 05/06/2014 3:04:53 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; Kenny Bunk
Remember the Lincoln-Douglas debates, in which the two men campaigned up and down Illinois for the senate seat. People weren't voting for state legislators on the basis of state issues--they were voting for electors for senator who incidentally would hold state legislature seats.

The question still is, would you rather have your Senate candidates lobby up and down your state to influence your locally elected assemblymen's votes, or would you want your Senator living comfortably in his home in DC getting his popular election campaign funds from Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer's PAC?

To whom would your Senator be more beholden, the locally elected assemblymen or Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer? Whose agenda would more likely be top-of-mind of your Senator?

-PJ

39 posted on 05/06/2014 3:14:45 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Just heard the vote will be tomorrow.


40 posted on 05/06/2014 3:17:59 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't give up! The liberals are buggering and aborting themselves into extinction.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I think that there are arguments on both sides, but that it’s a waste of energy. I don’t think anyone is going take the lead for something that will too-easily be portrayed as taking power from the people and putting it in the hands of career politicians. Complaining about it is an “Old Man Shakes Fist at Clouds” kinda thing.


41 posted on 05/06/2014 3:24:44 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels"-- Tom Waits)
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To: Political Junkie Too

As a duly constituted [sic] Amendment, #17 is as valid as the original Article in defining the election of Senators, so unfortunately we’re stuck with it until it’s repealed (if ever). My hope is that it would become more straightforward for new States to be carved from existing ones that would be more representative of the people & areas involved.

In the case of Chucky Schumer for example, he seems to spend a lot of time in Western NY with nice speeches and goodies (e.g. aid for the Buffalo Bills) – he knows he has the votes of the 3/4 of the New York population from downstate locked up; at this point, you’ll never get popularly-elected Senators from this part of the State, but”protégés” of his like Kirsten Gillibrand…


42 posted on 05/06/2014 3:57:34 PM PDT by mikrofon ("NY" Bump)
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To: Stillwaters
Ping

Just heard the vote will be tomorrow.

43 posted on 05/06/2014 5:35:55 PM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: clintonh8r

Okay. Thank you.


44 posted on 05/06/2014 5:53:08 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
“Old Man Shakes Fist at Clouds”

Ah Bubba, thou must be kind to thine elders. Trust me on this, the Senate be needin' a rap up the side'o'the head right about now.

E.G., John McCain, my exact contemporary in military service, is an anal sphincter of preternatural stupidity, bad character, and professional ineptitude that no body of American men would select to serve in any function in a functional republic.

45 posted on 05/06/2014 7:03:14 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Take congress in 2014. Have a Constitutional Convention of the States. Save the Republic.)
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To: Fledermaus

With Democrats in control of the Legislature and the Governorship, they were unable to pass gun control.

We’re not ALL idiots and there is no way an evil clown like Franken would have survived the selection process.

Norm Coleman either, but I digress...


46 posted on 05/07/2014 5:28:41 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: RandallFlagg

I haven’t heard any more about a vote today. Anybody else?


47 posted on 05/07/2014 10:32:58 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't give up! The liberals are buggering and aborting themselves into extinction.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Old Norm makes Charlie Brown look manly.


48 posted on 05/07/2014 11:36:58 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: Fledermaus

Yeah... Squishy RINO did not play well here. His campaign centered around bringing a mediocre hockey franchise back to the State and he wondered why he couldn’t swing the Middle.

Should have consolidated the Base FIRST, then worried about pandering to the Middle.


49 posted on 05/07/2014 11:48:32 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: Dead Corpse

Well, here in TN we get Lamar and Porker-Corker lying to us at election time. The usual RINO game plan. I’m outnumbered by RINO voters.


50 posted on 05/07/2014 11:50:55 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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