Posted on 05/08/2014 2:46:20 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
The Eurasianist Putin called the fall of the USSR a tragedy and re-instituted the May Day parades. This revanchist lunatic is not even a Russian nationalist. He is ensuring that Russia will be non-slavic Muslim in a few decades thanks to his refusal to part with Muslim peoples in Russia. He is a a delusional traitor to Western civilization poisoned by grievance for revenge.
Can we force Putin to get rid of the Eurasianists in his party and stop using Aleksandr Dugin’s book in Russian army officer training?
They're cut from the same cloth as the democrats in the US, laws are for "those other people".
I don't buy that premise.
It doesn't much matter what you can "buy", the facts are the facts and until Kiev ordered the Ukrainian Army to break up Ukrainian civilian protesters in East Ukraine using deadly force as they saw fit people in Eastern Ukraine were doing exactly what the Kiev Kiddies did in Kiev (other than burning cops alive, that is).
If they armed themselves at that point they had every bit as much right to do so as did the civilians who confronted the BLM in this country. That is, they have the right to use lethal force to defend themselves from a government intent on imposing it's will by the use of lethal force.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
I don’t buy the premise that the men in the green uniforms with the weapons are local Ukrainian citizens.
If you want to, you are one of the few that would want to, as it would be a crazy move.
So, since we can't do anything about the fascists in Russia we shouldn't do anything about them in Ukraine?
Ukraine, is a much smaller country, and Kiev can be pressured much more readily that Russia to toss their anti-Semites and Fascists from the Kiev gov’t.
Hence, you red herring that distracts from this opportunity...
Bomb Russia. That would be stupid.
So, since we can't go that route and have no business going that route, we shouldn’t do anything about Ukraine?
The U.S. can do something about Ukraine, as it is a much smaller country, and Kiev can be pressured much more easily to toss ALL of its anti-Semites and Fascists from positions of Gov’t.
But you failed to prove that all mass-murderers were Jewish Russian Imperlalists which you claimed.
And recent history certainly doesn’t help you, either...
You will do anything to further RINO interventionism, right?
If you say that we must deal simultaneously with Russia's fascists, I have no problem with that - just give some ideas as to how to do this.
Remember, though, we cannot militarily intervene with Russia, but we can sanction them, and we can sanction Ukraine, too, for having anti-Semites in positions of power in Kiev’s gov’t. And for having Right sector, too.
Some would then point to Russia's fascists, which they have every right to do, and should.
But Ukraine is a much smaller country, needs the U.S's help. And so if they want IMF funds, then they need to first get rid of ALL Svoboda in gov’t and rein in ALL right Sector.
Yes, Russia has some fascists, and yes the U.S. gov’t needs to bring that up, but there is nothing stopping the U.S. and IMF from saying that Ukraine must get rid of ALL anti-Semites from gov’t position's in Ukraine and rein in ALL Right Sector roaming Ukraine BEFORE they will get ANY IMF funds.
Russia should have pressure put on them to deal with them.
But the U.S. can chew bubble gum and walk at the same time, too.
Pressure must be put on Kiev to get rid of ALL anti-Semites in the UKrainian gov’t and to rein in ALL fascist Right sector roaming the Ukraine BEFORE they get any IMF funds.
We have many RINOS and GOP Establishment types here at FR (and on this thread) who don’t want Ukraine to have local, home rule and be autonomous.
And yes, thety are anti-Kiev, not pro-Russia.
Unfortunately, Ukraine may end up turning to Russia.
Apparently you know that there are some at FR who are Establishmnet GOP-e types, who want big-gov’t interventionism.
What I can’t understand is why the supposed Ukrainian Fascist Anti-Semites are now a problem for the Jews and they weren’t before the Russian invasion. Are the Jews in Ukraine fleeing Russian infiltrators or native Ukrainians who they have co-existed for years?
AgitProp?
Puhleeze.
Or is it really anti-Semitism?
I wish the Admin Moderator would quit allowing “agitprop” and not allowing other things to be puit on the tag lines. Bias?
Spam?
“AgitProp” IS SPAM.
To: Mike
They seem to be a problem now, because Right sector and others may be the muscle being used by Kiev, as Kiev apparently has little to no military.
“What I can’t understand is why the supposed...”
Supposed?
And the rebels in Syria are supposed terrorists?
Would you stand next to McCain when he had a photo op with supposed Syrian “rebels” or stand next to McCain when he stood next to Svoboda in Ukraine in December? If so, then you are not a true, real Freeper!!!
FR is anti-RINO (McCain). Period.
Are you the only one who doesn’t think that even Svoboda (who used to be known as “Social Nationalist” until they chnaged their name - remember the Nazis were the National Socialist Party (Nazi) - aren’t anti-Semitic.
Nazi: National Socilaust Party
Svoboda: Before make-over: Social Nationalist
Stand with Isreal, the Jewish people and againt RINOs, and the GOP-e/DEM-e!
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