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WaPo: There’s a new Republican dark horse emerging for 2016
Hotair ^ | 05/08/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 05/08/2014 6:49:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

I’m old enough to remember when people thought the GOP had a strong field lined up for the next cycle, with no need for dark horses. Which is to say, I’m more than six months old.

Pencemania?

Mike Pence is also quietly cultivating influential Washington figures such as Bill Kristol and Gary Bauer, while becoming one of the loudest voices attacking Common Core, a set of education benchmarks that has sparked a revolt among tea party activists.

The moves all bear the hallmarks of a potential run for president in 2016 — and some Republican leaders have begun talking up Pence as an under-the-radar standard-bearer who could return the GOP to the White House, according to interviews with more than two dozen prominent Republicans. They say the talk-radio-host-turned-congressman-turned-governor has the capacity to electrify grass-roots voters while uniting the constituencies that make up today’s deeply divided Republican Party.

“Pence could bridge really every group — the social conservatives, the fiscal conservatives, the foreign policy conservatives,” said Chris Chocola, president of the Club for Growth and a friend of Pence’s. “He’s not viewed as a fringe guy.”…

“In the last few months, people have reached out,” Pence said. “I’m listening.”

Actually, the money quote from the article isn’t in that excerpt. It’s this one, from Pence himself: “I am someone who doesn’t believe there is something wrong with the Republican agenda.” That’s an … interesting message to run on as the potential nominee of a party that’s been shellacked two elections in a row and, with great fanfare, engaged in a formal rebranding after the 2012 campaign. The most dynamic Republican pols of the last year are all about changing the party’s agenda. Most obviously, Rand Paul’s been pushing NSA reform and sentencing reforms; less conspicuously, Mike Lee’s proposed several pro-family economic measures. Virtually everyone in the prospective presidential field supports some form of immigration reform. It’d be supremely ironic if, after the rise of the tea party and people like Paul and Lee tugging the GOP in many different new directions, we ended up with a nominee who’s running explicitly on the idea of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

If you missed it last month, here’s my earlier post on Pence’s candidacy. The smartest critique of him in the WaPo story comes from Grover Norquist, who wonders what Pence’s “big thing” is. Scott Walker’s “big thing” is beating the unions in Wisconsin; if Pence ends up competing with him to be the “compromise candidate,” who’s respected by both the establishment and the grassroots, what has he accomplished to warrant picking him over Walker? (The same can be said for Rubio and Jindal, both of whom may also end up jockeying for the “compromise candidate” slot.) Pence has gotten out in front of opposing Common Core, but people who follow that issue closely like the boss emeritus think his opposition is mostly cosmetic. Maybe Pence’s “big thing” is simply the fact that he’s an exceptionally safe choice, almost to the point of blandness. Everyone else in the field has liabilities that will annoy some Republicans; even Walker, I think, might run into trouble on immigration. But Pence is, famously, a “full-spectrum conservative.”

The fact that he’s saying outright that he thinks there’s nothing wrong with the GOP’s agenda might be reassuring to undecided voters faced with hard choices in the primaries between hawks and doves, social moderates and social conservatives, and so forth. I think McCain got nominated in 2008 because GOP voters ultimately decided he was the safest choice; Romney was also the safest in 2012. Maybe all he has to do is jump in, keep his head down while the rest of the field nukes each other, and then accept the nomination when voters decide it’s all too much and they should just stick with the inoffensive conservative guy from the midwest.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: 2016; commoncore; darkhorse; indiana; mikepence
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1 posted on 05/08/2014 6:49:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

2 posted on 05/08/2014 6:50:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Conservative on the outside, RINO on the inside.....

An Oreo cookie of sorts?


3 posted on 05/08/2014 6:51:43 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Nextrush

WaPo


4 posted on 05/08/2014 6:52:25 PM PDT by stanne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THE PERFECT TICKET.....


5 posted on 05/08/2014 6:52:42 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: SeekAndFind

I vaguely recall him in the news a few years ago...


6 posted on 05/08/2014 6:53:10 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: SeekAndFind

Walker/Pence 2016......a winning ticket. If Palin wants in that is fine too. But 100 percent NO to Cruz and Paul. They would be the biggest disaster.....can you imagine a first term Senator (2 years in for Cruz) going up against Hillary. She would eat him for lunch due to his inexperience. He is 43 (this year).....he can run in 2034.


7 posted on 05/08/2014 6:53:34 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Scott Walker is the dark horse. There is a black out because they know he is formidable. Just a thought.
8 posted on 05/08/2014 6:54:30 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Nextrush

THE PERFECT TICKET.....

You want to lose don’t you. Cruz is too inexperienced....First term Senator...remember? Do you want another Obama?????? No results!


9 posted on 05/08/2014 6:54:39 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I love Mike Pence. He would make a great president. He cannot win.


10 posted on 05/08/2014 6:54:49 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He won in Indiana in the year Obama won re-election. He’s the guy the GOP should have nominated for President but didn’t.

Pence is an acceptable safe choice for those who can’t stomach Jeb Bush. And he comes from a solid GOP state.


11 posted on 05/08/2014 6:56:00 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Nextrush

Pence, a RINO?


12 posted on 05/08/2014 6:58:07 PM PDT by digger48
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s about time the Pubs figured out the ‘Rat strategery for running a relative unknown without much of a record. The hard part is getting ‘em elected in a 60% Progressive populace that couldn’t be shamed into doing the decent thing if their life depended on it which it may.


13 posted on 05/08/2014 6:58:07 PM PDT by Calusa (Were going to have that person arrested.....that did the video, said Hillary Clinton.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pence is a good man. Would be an excellent low key administrator !
Good at seeing overall picture and cleaning up messes. He has legislative experience and has served as governor. Very qualified


14 posted on 05/08/2014 6:58:11 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: stanne

I believe that 95 percent of Republicans elected or running for office are either repudiating conservatism or faking it.

A few like Cruz, Palin or even Rand Paul stand for something as examples.

Only three of the 40 plus GOP senators (Cruz, Paul, Lee) seem to stand for anything.

Can’t use the liberal media mantra on me anymore, I know they’re liberal and its too bad but most Republican elected officials are liberal as well. A lot hide their liberalism better than others.

THIS PENCE GUY IS ANOTHER FAKER VOTE SPLITTER DESIGNED TO HELP JEB OR MITT OR WHOEVER THE ESTABLISHMENT WANTS TO WIN DEFEAT CONSERVATIVES IN THE PRIMARIES-CAUCUSES.

I WILL SUPPORT SARAH PALIN, TED CRUZ OR RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT, OTHERWISE DON’T BOTHER TO HUSTLE ME WITH ANOTHER CANDIDATE.


15 posted on 05/08/2014 7:00:34 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Nextrush

Your last line was all you needed to say.


16 posted on 05/08/2014 7:01:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: napscoordinator

The business as usual candidates are not getting my support although the country may be in such ruins they will win without my vote in the general election.


17 posted on 05/08/2014 7:02:53 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: hoosiermama

Mike is a conservative and he understands economics. I would be fine with that. I’d rather have Cruz—but Pence might actually be more effective given his executive experience.


18 posted on 05/08/2014 7:04:09 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: digger48

Yeah, Pence isn’t a RINO. He was a talk radio personality in Indiana so I know that he’s a solid conservative. But it worries me that somewhere there are thousands of hours of recordings. I lived through the Mourdock meltdown so I’m just a little leery.


19 posted on 05/08/2014 7:04:27 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: Fungi

“Scott Walker is the dark horse. There is a black out because they know he is formidable.”

Yep.

He is left out of many polls.


20 posted on 05/08/2014 7:04:46 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: SeekAndFind

Purely from a strategic view, the GOP ticket needs at least one, if not two, candidates from a Great Lakes state. Scott Walker (WI) would be my first choice. Gov. John Kasich (OH) (provided he wins reelection easily this year, as he should) would be fine, as would Mike Pence (IN).


21 posted on 05/08/2014 7:06:16 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ("The power to tax is the power to destroy." -- Chief Justice John Marshall, 1819)
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To: cripplecreek

I thought I’d make a speech since the RINO’s have me so worked up with the games they play on us. They keep trying to throw “excrement” candidates at us to see if one of them will stick and help split the conservative vote in the primaries and caucuses.

STAND WITH THE BIG THREE AND DON’T LOOK BACK.

I THINK ONE OF THEM WILL STAND A CHANCE TO BEAT THE RINO ANNOINTED CANDIDATE.


22 posted on 05/08/2014 7:06:49 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Nextrush

Just not true. No one supports Palin et al more than me. Pence isn’t a faker.


23 posted on 05/08/2014 7:06:54 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: SeekAndFind

can we still say “dark horse”?


24 posted on 05/08/2014 7:07:30 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Nextrush

AND STOP YELLING.


25 posted on 05/08/2014 7:07:39 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: HMS Surprise

Conservative talk is cheap when we need conservative action.

All we get from the GOP is liberal action like higher taxes and more spending. (The Paul Ryan Budget).


26 posted on 05/08/2014 7:08:48 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Buchanan liked Pence a while back. But when I looked into him, he was squishy on immigration.


27 posted on 05/08/2014 7:09:55 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: napscoordinator

I agree Walker may be the best candidate....very thick skinned too. Wonder if he has a good sense of humor to laugh off the smut that will be thrown at him?


28 posted on 05/08/2014 7:11:08 PM PDT by spiderfern
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To: SC_Pete

Not the lightening pole. His radio experience make him alert on his feet in any conversation. Otoh well be needing two conservative senators soon


29 posted on 05/08/2014 7:11:38 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: HMS Surprise

I’ll stop yelling, but seriously, a party whose goal is to amend Obamacare to make it more “market friendly” does not inspire me very much to support it in 2014.

A party whose leaders push through a higher debt ceiling without being deposed by the majority of their members that techinically didn’t vote for the debt ceiling hike smells pretty bad to me.

The 95 percent of Republicans who don’t get it won’t get my support for any office including President of the United States.


30 posted on 05/08/2014 7:13:30 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Fungi

I don’t think Walker is POTUS material. But Pence? Like someone said, full RINO on the inside.


31 posted on 05/08/2014 7:13:59 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Nextrush

I listened to Mike Pence for years... And what exactly... precisely... do you know about him?


32 posted on 05/08/2014 7:15:29 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Works for me!


33 posted on 05/08/2014 7:15:34 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: napscoordinator

“You want to lose don’t you. Cruz is too inexperienced....First term Senator...remember? Do you want another Obama?????? No results!”

43 years old? Hell, I would put him on the supreme court. How is that for a chief justice?

Forget Palin. Although she is the best choice, the wounds haven’t healed yet. Palin is President in 2024.

I like Walker but I’m afraid he would go squish with immigration. If he could be trusted, I would have him and Rubio or Haley. Reason for Rubio is as VP he is useless, but it will bring in Hispanic voters and satisfies the GOPe. And 8 years after that I have Palin in the White Hut.


34 posted on 05/08/2014 7:15:52 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary"S)
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To: Nextrush

You obviously don’t know Mike Pence. Like I said, I don’t think he can win. But if I could put him in the White House today... I would.


35 posted on 05/08/2014 7:17:37 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: Nextrush

Where in the hell have you and these detractors come up with the idea Pence is some kind of stalking horse or RINO? He’s done a damn fine job as IN Governor.


36 posted on 05/08/2014 7:19:18 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: napscoordinator

Uh Obama beat Hillary with no experience.


37 posted on 05/08/2014 7:21:16 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Nextrush

Walker is our best bet. Proven track record of winning big and fighting for things he believes in.


38 posted on 05/08/2014 7:23:21 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: SeekAndFind

Something tells me he’ll enable Krispy or Jeb


39 posted on 05/08/2014 7:23:25 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who is the dark horse? It takes 15 paragraphs for anybody to get to the point these days.


40 posted on 05/08/2014 7:24:53 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: PistolPaknMama

Pence.


41 posted on 05/08/2014 7:25:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: for-q-clinton; Nextrush

Gov. Scott Walker Signs Gun Confiscation Law Under Cloak of Domestic Abuse
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3152959/posts


42 posted on 05/08/2014 7:26:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pence is on my short list, along with Cruz, Palin, Santorum, and Jindal. If he is the nominee, I could not only vote for him but gladly campaign for him.


43 posted on 05/08/2014 7:26:51 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
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To: HMS Surprise

The talk is tough, but the actions???????

I’ve watched politics and politicians with D’s and R’s next to their names for years and have figured it out to this.

They talk big differences, but in reality there are virtually no differences.

Pence is talking as if he doesn’t support Common Core, but the acid test will be if he abandons it or not.

Another acid test is Medicaid expansion under Obamacare.

Pence is playing the game my RINO Governor Tom Corbett (PA) is in his re-election year.

Pence pushes an alternative to create a fight with the Obama Administration to look good politically.

Trying to expand Medicaid on one’s own terms has the smell of the GOPe “Amend Obamcare” agenda.

Why didn’t he just flat out say NO to Medicaid expansion like governors or legislators in the more conservative states have done.


44 posted on 05/08/2014 7:29:56 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pence and Walker would make for a formidable ticket. Two accomplished governors with great track records..


45 posted on 05/08/2014 7:30:27 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
The problem about all candidates is that once they are elected, go to Washington, they change. That is one of the real problems, the mind set of a federal bureaucrat.
46 posted on 05/08/2014 7:31:37 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: hoosiermama

Pence and Demint were the only ones I saw out and with the people at the 9-12 rally in DC.


47 posted on 05/08/2014 7:33:12 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Pence is not RINO on the inside. He voted against the banks bailout, he voted against the prescription drug plan for seniors, he voted against the bailout for Chrysler and GM.....these are just a few things I can come up with off the top of my head.

I don’t think those votes qualify as RINO by a long shot.


48 posted on 05/08/2014 7:35:07 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: southernnorthcarolina

Scott Walker recently did something to knock him off my list but my failing memory can’t dig it up. It must have been gun related though.


49 posted on 05/08/2014 7:36:42 PM PDT by mcshot (..."And this too shall end.")
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To: for-q-clinton

Uh Obama beat Hillary with no experience.

And look how that turned out. Do we really want another President with zero experience?


50 posted on 05/08/2014 7:37:15 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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