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Newly Installed White House Solar Panels Will Generate Power For a Whopping Six Light Bulbs
IJReview ^ | Soopermexican

Posted on 05/11/2014 11:23:57 AM PDT by Nachum

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To: Bogey78O; All
Bad math due to bad phrasing from the WH.

The wording in the OP is horrendous. This gives us a clue that the drop-outs in the WH don't know what they're talking about concerning PC global warming climate change and electric cars.

21 posted on 05/11/2014 11:51:47 AM PDT by Amendment10
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our non solar electricity here costs .93 cents per KWH.

I don't get that. Here, In WA State where Google and all are putting in the big data centers next to Columbia River dams, the cost is about 6 cents.

The average price people in the U.S. pay for electricity is about 12 cents per kilowatt-hour.

22 posted on 05/11/2014 11:51:57 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

Of course, to get the output I reported in #18, the panel orientation has to track the sun — and even then it isn’t going to be for very many hours each day once you get much away from June in the northern hemisphere.


23 posted on 05/11/2014 11:57:05 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: Nachum

Maybe the WH can dedicate the output from the solar cells towards recharging their smartphones, to be able to keep issuing those important policy Tweets ...


24 posted on 05/11/2014 11:57:09 AM PDT by mikrofon (#Sol-dabillofgoods)
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But that’s not averaged over 365 24 hr days, counting cloudy days. I have a 1 kW bank of panels that’s just fine for running some critical electronics (internet hardware, a laptop and ham radio full time with just enough reserve for another couple of part-time usage radios.


25 posted on 05/11/2014 11:57:11 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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But that’s not averaged over 365 24 hr days, counting cloudy days. I have a 1 kW bank of panels that’s just fine for running some critical electronics (internet hardware, a laptop and ham radio full time with just enough reserve for another couple of part-time usage radios.


26 posted on 05/11/2014 11:57:27 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Amendment10

The OP doesn’t work for the Black House; he is a ‘conservative’ commentator. The WH setup is probably fine engineering wise (for a wing of the White House or something), but the implementation was done for its symbolism not its energy.


27 posted on 05/11/2014 12:00:22 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: Nachum
Im so VERY PROUD..thst bulbhead is saving all that energy!!




28 posted on 05/11/2014 12:00:26 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

Sounds about right. The panel must be fixed mount?


29 posted on 05/11/2014 12:01:48 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: steve86

Yup, 45 degree roof, aimed pretty much south. 44 degrees north.


30 posted on 05/11/2014 12:06:00 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Nachum
Symbolism over substance — the Obama way.
31 posted on 05/11/2014 12:10:02 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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The OP doesn’t work for the Black House; he is a ‘conservative’ commentator.

Thanks for correction.

But it remains that one reason that conservatives are unnecessarily struggling to protect the Constitution is because so many "conservative" journalists evidently don't know the federal government's constitutionally limited powers any better than they understand basic physics.

32 posted on 05/11/2014 12:13:33 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: NewHampshireDuo

It always surprises me that we are north of northern New England and parts of Canada. But the latitude lines do not lie.


33 posted on 05/11/2014 12:17:53 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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6.3 kilowatts directly connected would light approximately 6.3 kilowatts of bulb

That's #63 100 watt incandescent bulbs for those in Rio Linda.

34 posted on 05/11/2014 12:19:10 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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The site has an update (which matches what FR engineering types have posted):

“UPDATE: A commenter below noted…

“This article makes a number of fundamental errors in its analysis. First and foremost is the confusion between power (kilowatts or kW) and energy (kilowatt-hours or kWh).

“KW is the instantaneous power, or in this case the “rated” instantaneous power of the PV array, or the most it would put out under ideal conditions. Energy is that power over a period of time. For example, 6 kW over three hours equals 18 kWh of energy.. Since Washington gets an annual average of about 5.5 hours of equivalent full sunshine on a tilted array surface, the “energy” from the array would be the “power” times the equivalent sunshine hours. Kilowatts times hours equals kilowatt-hours. There are some other factors such as temperature effects and the efficiency of converting from DC to AC, so it is easiest to use one of the web-based calculators.

“Using the NREL “PVWatts” program (http://pvwatts.nrel.gov/) for calculating energy from a PV system, the 6.3 kWp White House system system would produce about 100,000 kWh per year, which works out to roughly 27 kWh per year, which works out to roughly the average household usage quoted in the article.


35 posted on 05/11/2014 12:24:16 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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100,000 kWh per year, which works out to roughly 27 kWh per year,

They should put their calculator down and quit digging....

/johnny

36 posted on 05/11/2014 12:35:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Nachum
and they will prolly pay for themselves in thirty or forty years...
37 posted on 05/11/2014 12:40:41 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Nachum
From the article:

"Given how little energy will be generated, it’s no surprise that the administration has declined to state just how much the taxpayer shelled out for it."

Transparency and all that. Nothing but effing crooks, the whole lot.

38 posted on 05/11/2014 1:01:45 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: JRandomFreeper

When even the cook notices the errors...

Perhaps the author should have gone to culinary school.


39 posted on 05/11/2014 1:06:20 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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The average price people in the U.S. pay for electricity is about 12 cents per kilowatt-hour.

I just went and looked at my bill. With the add ons (distribution, customer, etc) my residential electricity comes to .08628 per KWH. Without the add ons, my residential kwh cost would only be .06284 per kwh.

The 93 cents the City said it pays was from a newspaper article about ditching the solar panels at the park. I know commercial rates are higher here than residential, but that figure in the newspaper must have been wrong. It probably should have been .093 per kwh.

40 posted on 05/11/2014 1:16:57 PM PDT by sockmonkey (I've been pulling up ivy all morning. What kills ivy forever?)
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