How The One Percent Will Legalize Marijuana

high Times ^ | 2/21/14 | Mike Adams

[dsc]

” I just don’t think it makes any sense to add additional methods of getting ‘high’ to the legal list.”

We want a legal system we can respect, which means it must strive for justice and logical consistency. It must pass the reasonable man test.

In the eyes of many, perhaps most, marijuana prohibition does not meet the criterion of logical consistency.

Alcohol is stronger and far more dangerous. It can kill you quickly and suddenly, as happens to a couple of frat pledges every year (Well, maybe not *every* year, but certainly every now and then.). It is strongly addictive, much more so than pot, and that can be fatal over a period of years or decades.

There are counter-arguments. Good ones, maybe even convincing ones, but many remain convinced by the “alcohol is stronger” argument.

[Nifster]

“Alcohol is stronger and far more dangerous”

Being ill informed does not make your argument correct. The modern marijuana is NOTHING like the weak stuff of the 60s. You apparently have not kept up with the latest research.

I don’t really give a rat’s behind what many think. That is not the basis for my principles. If it is for you more’s the shame

[morphing libertarian]

Some people lie the war on drugs, especially it’s impact n police procedures.

Many will never learn from how prohibition enriched gangsters and practically founded the mafia commission and subsequent gang activity.The crips, the columbians, the mexican cartels have all benefited by drugs being illegal.

[morphing libertarian]

lie=like thanx auto-text

[Political Junkie Too]

How The One Percent Will, uh, What Were We Talking About?

Fixed it.

-PJ

[alexander_busek]

Look, I like antibiotics, but the use of those is largely controlled, unless you are taking the ones for your pet. I don't particularly see people looking to loot my possessions or rob me or my wife to get their next penicillin fix. Not too many people out there running tetracycline houses. No street gangs fighting over turf to sell cipro. No one engaging in prostitution to get that levaquin high. But there are a few drugs which have the distinct honor of being tied to extensive social problems, to increased crime, wrecked homes and lives, and which do more damage to our culture, society, economy, and nation than can possibly be outweighed by someone's need for a buzz.

Do you see any gangland murders and territorial wars over the distribution of alcohol? Oh, that's right: Prohibition was recognized to be a failed experiment, and summarily revoked. And if tobacco were suddenly declared a Schedule I narcotic, you can bet that a lively trade in illegal cigarettes would soon be claiming hundreds of lives per year.

[...] drugs which have the distinct honor of being tied [...] Yes, those drugs tied to extensive social problems are the ones which have been arbitrarily made illegal, making a) it profitable for organized crime to get involved; b) raising prices; c) thus "forcing" users into criminality to fund their addiction; d) thus justifying a "war on (some) drugs;" etc.

Regards,

[SpeakerToAnimals]

The modern marijuana is NOTHING like the weak stuff of the 60s.

40 years of the war on some drugs and this is the result. Pot is cheaper, more potent and much easier to get. We can have drugs, crime and government corruption, or just drugs.

[Nifster]

How very libertarian of you....

That is not the only set of choices.....

Legalizing drugs does NOTHING to get rid of crime, drugs , and government corruption.

Again you missed my point about Needle Park in Zurich.....Plenty of places have tried legalizing drugs. They then pull back from that because it leads to even worse social degradation

[dsc]

“Being ill informed does not make your argument correct. The modern marijuana is NOTHING like the weak stuff of the 60s. You apparently have not kept up with the latest research.”

Actually, I have, and no matter how strong marijuana may be, it will not kill you. Alcohol will.

[Nifster]

And you are misinformed.

[dsc]

“And you are misinformed.”

You really believe that a THC overdose can be fatal in the same way that an alcohol overdose can?

[dsc]

“Pot is cheaper”

As I recall, the going rate for an ounce of “Columbian” was $30 when I was in college.

[SpeakerToAnimals]

If you went to college the same time I did, thirty bucks would buy a hundred gallons of gas. In 1980 a new Toyota Tercel was about two thousand bucks.

[gdani]

40 years of the war on some drugs and this is the result. Pot is cheaper, more potent and much easier to get.

Shhh! You're destroying the narrative those with a ve$ted intere$t in keeping marijuana illegal have written.

Now go the state store & buy yourself some booze!

[mgist]

I dont demand government knock down civilians doors. I think they should stop this crap from getting in, instead of helping the cartels and providing cover. Heroin turned China into a slave nation, and that is what they want here. They need to be exposed for what they are. Power hungry criminals.

Why is the NSA is too busy recording law abiding citizens conversations and keystrokes, and obsessing over Angela Merkel, to bother themselves with terrorist cartels all over the hemisphere?. Americans are living a lie. Our government is beholden to the Muslim Brotherhood who are a simply heroin cartel. The Fat Cats are profiting big time and your children are the vicitms.

My only point is to expose our government for the drug dealers they are. partners in crime.

[SpeakerToAnimals]

My only point is to expose our government for the drug dealers they are. partners in crime.

We are in complete agreement on this. If I misread your position, or accused you of supporting something you do not support, I offer my apologies.

My battle for legalization is based on the 4th amendment violations. I want the Constitutional protections back. IMHO states can ban drugs, the feds cannot. Colorado, and soon Washington, will serve as laboratories. Just like the Founders intended.

If we made a mistake it will be limited to one or two states. Time and the facts will tell.

[Smokin' Joe]

Actually, my opinion of professional sports and Hollywood are probably best left for another thread, but I haven't much followed either since the super bowls were all numbered in V and/or I s. To my knowledge, neither is addictive in the sense that Meth, Heroin, or crack are.

If drugs were so good for you, maybe so much of Hollywood would spend less time in rehab.

[Smokin' Joe]

The drugs were around before the laws. The laws were passed because of the damaging effects of the drugs, not "arbitrarily". That the systematic misplaced zeal in enforcing those laws has seriously damaged the Constitutional rights of the rest of us is just another side effect of the drugs.

Make all the arguments you want. You won't convince me that complete legalization of addictive substances is a good thing. I have seen the effects of those substances on people I love, and that has had effects on my own life as well, even though I wasn't using the drugs.

If you haven't seen someone you love lose their youth and beauty and wreck their life despite trying to get them to stop, if you haven't picked up the pieces from the collateral damage of their addiction, you are just spewing theory and bullshit, anyway, or you are seriously in denial about the destruction that these substances cause on a very personal level.

Multiply those effects by hundreds of people and towns start rotting from the inside, by millions, a nation does.

Maybe you just don't want to see that for personal reasons, maybe you just haven't looked.

[Smokin' Joe]

I wrote it.

[Wolfie]

National marijuana prohibition is dead.

Yes, it is. Enough of the propaganda-addled seniors are finally dying off for common sense to take over.