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Orr tells Michigan lawmakers: 'We need your money' (to bail out Detroit)
Associated Press ^ | May 13, 2014

Posted on 05/13/2014 11:08:59 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Edited on 05/13/2014 11:10:41 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

ANSING, Mich. (AP)

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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The people of Michigan (other than Detroit residents) did not approve the pensions in Detroit, and they should not have to pay for them. Lots of Michiganders "need their money".
1 posted on 05/13/2014 11:08:59 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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The retired city employees should sue the Democrat Party for the money. The Democrats got their money. The Democrat Party has lots of money. They caused this problem. The taxpayers around Michigan didn’t promise those city employees lots of money. The Democrats promised them money. Let the Democrats pay. It’s only fair.


2 posted on 05/13/2014 11:16:58 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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sell the art....


3 posted on 05/13/2014 11:21:36 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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Agreed. Auction off the vacant lots and abandoned buildings and START OVER.


4 posted on 05/13/2014 11:31:54 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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Can’t they just borrow the money from GM?


5 posted on 05/13/2014 11:34:20 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: blueunicorn6

It’s not entirely the fault of the dimocRAT paprty. The dumb a$$ voters that kept putting RATS in office for the last fifty years share the other half of the blame. They can help bail out Detroit.


6 posted on 05/13/2014 11:34:30 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (I am proud of what America USED TO BE.)
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They don’t have any money. You have to sue the people that have money, and the Democrat Party has LOTS of money.


7 posted on 05/13/2014 11:38:31 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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A couple of paintings in the museum could more than take care of their current needs. This single painting was just appraised at $200 million.

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8 posted on 05/13/2014 11:55:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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I’d rather that we bail out Detroit than taxpayers nationwide. When the piper comes due in many much larger cities verging on collapse I want to have a legitimate standing to say “No F’n way”.


9 posted on 05/13/2014 11:57:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Detroit bankruptcy

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10 posted on 05/13/2014 11:59:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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I think we should just give Detroit to Canada.


11 posted on 05/13/2014 12:39:03 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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12 posted on 05/13/2014 12:41:20 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cripplecreek
It's not that clear that the paintings belong to the city.

And almost all the paintings were given in trust for the perpetual enjoyment of the residents of the city. Were they now to be auctioned off the heirs of the donors could sue and recover the art-work.

Some part of the collection was bought with the budget, those could be probably be sold.

Property rights are no longer really meaningful. It's sort of sad that when the "white flight" took place, the feeling citizens did not have the presence of mind to take their museums with them.

I have many relatives buried in Detroit cemeteries. There is a small industry of people moving their dead outside the city, so it's not just the living who are leaving.

Detroit Boat Club - a sad decrepit relic of bygone times.

13 posted on 05/13/2014 12:54:44 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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My grandfather was vice-Admiral of that club, my father proposed to my mother during dinner there.


14 posted on 05/13/2014 1:01:32 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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I’d like to know when the people who will be paying for the pensions get to vote on that proposal.


15 posted on 05/13/2014 1:05:23 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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As far as I can tell the city does own The Wedding Dance. Obviously only a fool would sell everything but there are a lot of extremely valuable objects and selling 2 or 3 would be an acceptable loss for taking care of the immediate shortfall.

http://www.mackinac.org/20066

Obviously its the long term debt that is the real problem in Detroit and the only way out that I see is through privatization of services and slashing taxes on business large and small.


16 posted on 05/13/2014 1:06:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Jack Black

Detroit was once the most modern city in the world. Amazing what half a century of Progressive control can do.


17 posted on 05/13/2014 1:43:57 PM PDT by D Rider (Don't give sharp objects to small children)
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While I'm not a big fan of progressives, they run Portland, OR where I live and they have done a nice job of fixing up the run down parts of this city, and it's a very livable place.

And the politicians running the city of Detroit were not obviously "progressive", they were more like Black Nationalists. Coleman Young wasn't trying to be the new TR, more like a local version of Robert Mugabe. If you want a short hand I would say "blacks" is about 10 times more accurate than "progressives", but a lot more politically incorrect.

A great book about the fall of Detroit.

At a minimum: extremely politically incorrect, and probably crossing the line into "racism" in some sense, but it is also factual, footnoted, and fearless.

Eric Holder asked for honest discussion about race. Paul Kersey met the request.

18 posted on 05/13/2014 3:28:27 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: reaganaut1

City of Detroit entered the Twilight Zone on a hot summer night in 1967.

I witnessed it.

Detroit Denby, Class of 1967


19 posted on 05/13/2014 5:40:13 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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Good lord !

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20 posted on 05/13/2014 5:42:16 PM PDT by Mears
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