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To: Tailgunner Joe
Will Cruz lift up the neo Con banner?

There is noting in or about Ukraine that is an essential USA security interest. Other than the desire to see self-determination in Ukraine, what else is there?

"Deny Russia"? The Russians have enormous political, security and commercial interests there and also enormous incentive to protect those interests.

No, I'm not saying it's all legitimate, but I am saying it's REAL.

Inevitably, they win because it's worth more to them. We'd do well to STFU and figure out how we actually meet our existing NATO obligations, over-extended as they are.

19 posted on 05/13/2014 9:28:47 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Cruz doesn’t say anything until every option is considered, and when he does say something, it is the right thing.

*all you zombies hide your faces, all you people in the streets, all you living in high places, the rain’s gonna fall on you*


20 posted on 05/13/2014 9:34:55 PM PDT by txhurl (Trump/Cruz '16, and everybody else for Cabinet members.)
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To: Mariner
It is not in US interests to allow Putin's genocidal dictatorship to regain territory it lost when the EVIL EMPIRE was shattered to pieces. It is in our interests to undermine, sabotage and confront our hostile Russian enemies at all possible times. Therefore we should continue NATO expansion to contain an expansionist imperial neo-Soviet Russia.
21 posted on 05/13/2014 9:37:41 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Mariner
No one has suggested going to war, so how does that make him a neoCon? That would make Reagan, who stood at the Berlin Wall, a neocon by that definition.
48 posted on 05/14/2014 10:10:10 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Mariner

We’d do well to STFU and figure out how we actually meet our existing NATO obligations, over-extended as they are.

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This is where the neocons and Obamunists get into bed together and ‘unify’. They need a foreign distraction from domestic decline and the encroaching police state. This is also a great test run on suppressing armed, urban resistance and crushing a relatively Western populace. This is practice for domestic use.

This bogus startup war -is- the Molotov-Ribbentrop accord, but it is between American neocons and Obamunists. The truce won’t hold, as both are determined to be the sole survivor. A pox on both their bunkers.


53 posted on 05/14/2014 12:02:13 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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