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Marco Rubio’s Right on Social Security
National Review ^ | 05/15/2014 | The Editors

Posted on 05/15/2014 7:01:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: rubio; socialsecurity
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To: central_va
Sure roofers should work until they are 71. Yeah an A/C tech in their 60’s should crawl around attic in the summer. Keep ‘em working till they drop.

For full benefits? Yes. For reduced benefits (which should still be pretty decent considering what skilled roofers/techs make), retire when they need to, or shift to a job that is less physical. Right now, the average person on social security is being supported by five active workers (5:1). That is projected to drop to 3:1 in 2040, and 5:2 by 2080. It's not sustainable unless we raise the age, probably to age 75 by 2080.

41 posted on 05/15/2014 10:47:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: napscoordinator

Yes, what he and Moynihan accomplished helped, but also created the huge problem of the untrustworthy trust funds. The trust fund approach masked the damaging accounting deficits we were creating, by making the annual cash flow deficits much smaller than the accrual deficits.

Yep, we have to revisit it. And I know it’s a blink of an eye but that was thirty years ago for a massive system.


42 posted on 05/15/2014 10:51:32 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind

Sure Social Security needs to be “fixed.” But only after gold-plated government retirement/medical benefits programs are “fixed” first.


43 posted on 05/15/2014 10:52:20 AM PDT by abb
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
Anyone who has received more in Soc Sec than what he paid in (plus a reasonable rate of return) is at that point forward a welfare recipient. Ditto Medicare.

What do you think of life and health insurance?

I'm no fan of social security but it was sold as an insurance program and that is how many folks look at it.

44 posted on 05/15/2014 10:52:27 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: old and tired

It is a socialized pension insurance scheme, but the benefits are absolutely already skewed in favor of those who have paid in the least, not to mention the taxability of the income for those who have other income in retirement further adding to the progressivity of the system.

But if you look at an actual opinion poll you’ll also see it’s one of the most popular programs of the government, including among 40-50 year olds. It’s not going away, but it needs to be adjusted, very slightly and very slowly, to put it on an actuarially sustainable footing.


45 posted on 05/15/2014 10:55:53 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind

Nope, they will have to fund their own retirement, which is most likely going to happen anyway, leaders should have the courage to be honest.


46 posted on 05/16/2014 3:11:55 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: SeekAndFind
SS funding must be behind the desperate push to "bring the illegals out of the shadows", to get more people paying income taxes, SS, and medicare tax.

What they do not factor in is that legalizing the legals will increase unemployment among current employed. It will open the gates to more illegals, because the newly legalized employees cost too much. The newly arrived illegals will then need to be legalized ... lather, rinse, repeat.

Eventually everyone will be on SSI disability (permanent unemployment benefits).

47 posted on 05/16/2014 3:20:44 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Svartalfiar
One-time payment that pays out everyone’s accounts immediately.

Sounds magical. Now all they need to do is create the money.

48 posted on 05/16/2014 3:29:14 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation

It’s what they did with TARP. Yea, it’s pulling money out of nowhere. But it’s better to do that and get rid of a negative-running balance, then to let SS get even more into the red.

And of course, bonus points if we can pay off the (one-time) payment with permanent cuts elsewhere ;)


49 posted on 05/17/2014 5:36:22 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

TARP was half a bil.
SS is 12 tril.


50 posted on 05/17/2014 5:40:14 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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