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The Misinformed Case for Voter ID
Townhall.com ^ | May 15, 2014 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 05/15/2014 8:17:30 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

States that require voter ID offer them free at the DMV for those that can’t afford one.

The utility bill BS don’t fly either, because you have to have a valid picture ID to have the utilities turned on!

Still can’t get an ID? No problem, everyone has finger prints, no photo ID requires you finger print on the ballot.


41 posted on 05/15/2014 8:57:54 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: SoConPubbie

Yup, likely a Libtardian just like Runt Paul.


42 posted on 05/15/2014 8:59:40 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: MrB

Their idea of every vote should count is to vote often they no longer try to hide their dishonesty they know the public have been bummed down and they can sell anything to them with the help of the MSM.


43 posted on 05/15/2014 9:04:05 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Kaslin

They are the masters of fraud.


44 posted on 05/15/2014 9:04:45 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: rellimpank

Mr Chapman deserves a hearing. He came with an opinion and with reasons to support his opinions. I don’t agree with him, but it’s so much more refreshing than the argument we usually hear.....”RACIST!” And you know that is the sum total of everything we normally get.

I disagree with Chapman.

First, I don’t think getting a picture ID is a burden at all. Despite the few examples he’s given of those who can’t get a Puerto Rican certificate or have to change a name on a birth certificate because of bad spelling, those exceptions should not drive a good rule. Besides, there’s no need to require a birth certificate to prove citizenship. Some reasonable evidence should be all that’s required to get a picture ID....bills, witnesses, relatives, etc. It’s just not hard to do. And the payoff — secure elections — is important.

Second, his point that a few cases of fraud can’t determine an election simply isn’t so. We had one woman in Cincy convicted for voting 6 times last presidential election. With 88 counties, that’s 568 votes if it were to happen in every other county. And Florida was determined by that number of votes in the famous hanging chad election.

All of his arguments about what people DON’T DO are simply a subset of how hard it is to get verify your identity for purposes of a picture ID.

ALL OF THESE are mitigated by the ID being free, by transportation being provided, and by other means of identifying oneself. So far as a homeless man having difficulty, even that man has a name and a story that can be checked.

Picture ID is not a burden of any consequence at all. The courts are wrong.

Finally, I think he’s mistaken about the right to vote. It can be abridged, although the list of constitutional reasons are limited. For example, one must be a US citizen, states can impose registration requirements, certain criminals can be prevented, and there are even residency requirements. Therefore, since there are registration requirement, then it only follows that one be able to demonstrate some bit of truth regarding one’s meeting those requirements.


45 posted on 05/15/2014 9:10:14 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Kaslin
... a parade of people attested that they lacked the required ID and, in many cases, couldn't easily get it.

You may choose to not live as an adult in modern America but that is YOUR choice and should have no impact on our election laws.

46 posted on 05/15/2014 9:11:47 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Kaslin
Fifteen percent of white adults in Wisconsin, and half of blacks and Hispanics, don't drive.

I am pretty doubtful of that number. They may not have licenses but I suspect they manage to drive without them.

47 posted on 05/15/2014 9:12:55 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Kaslin

given anyone who is poor and doesn’t have ID can get a state ID card for free, there is no burden. it was written in the law so that it wouldn’t be a burden.


48 posted on 05/15/2014 9:15:34 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Now how many in your state have valid drivers licenses and how many that don’t do drive anyway?


49 posted on 05/15/2014 9:18:13 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Re: “Obtaining a Wisconsin state ID card for the purposes of voting is FREE!”

They have the same procedure in South Carolina.


50 posted on 05/15/2014 9:19:00 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: LucianOfSamasota
So the author KNOWS that systematized and organized voter fraud on a scale which determines elections does not occur

The current tempest in a teapot, locally, is that NC found something like 35,000 duplicate registrations in other states. Of them, 780-odd (IIRC) had voted twice.

Libs say "Well, there are some discrepancies, it's not really that many, blah blah, etc etc". One "discrepancy" is too many, IMO, because it cancels out my vote. BUT - more to the point....

I think that it shows how rampant abuse at the polls, by the pollworkers, really is. Do I think that "Jane Doe" voted in NC, then drove all the way to Minnesota to cast another ballot because they knew the states wouldn't talk to each other on the topic and she could likely get away with it? Probably not.

But I DO think that pollworkers would cast "Jane Doe's" ballot FOR her, along with a few hundred other non-voting people, after the polls close of course, and only if their candidate needed to get a little bump over the finish line. That's the real problem, and the elephant in the room that no one is talking about.

51 posted on 05/15/2014 9:20:06 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

The problem for the left is that by being required to have a voter ID card, that they are forced to vote honestly. It doesn’t matter that the State ID is free of charge


52 posted on 05/15/2014 9:25:12 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: rellimpank

I felt the same way when I read this.

Voting should be one of the most important things that someone does, and they want to reduce it to a utilitarian role similar to using the toilet.

In their eyes, you shouldn’t even have to leave your recliner to vote.

I say crap to this article.


53 posted on 05/15/2014 9:30:58 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Kaslin
Now how many in your state have valid drivers licenses and how many that don’t do drive anyway?

A lot. According to this study by AAA 1 in 5 fatal crashes involves someone without a valid license. I assume that this is higher than the rate of drivers as a whole but I really don't know.

54 posted on 05/15/2014 9:31:42 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: SoConPubbie

Most of the state laws I have read all include provisions for free photo ids. I would be shocked, if Wisconsin doesn’t also.


55 posted on 05/15/2014 9:52:32 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: MrB
Should you have to show an ID when attending a public meeting with a politician?

I certainly had to when I went to visit my congressman. Indeed, I was glad to be asked for it.

56 posted on 05/15/2014 10:05:23 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

I think it’s necessary, yes, but it’s also necessary to make sure the person voting is eligible to vote.


57 posted on 05/15/2014 10:27:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Beagle8U
Still can’t get an ID? No problem, everyone has finger prints, no photo ID requires you finger print on the ballot.

And indelible purple ink for all voter.

58 posted on 05/15/2014 10:36:57 AM PDT by zeugma (Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened - Dr. Seuss (I'll see you again someday Hope))
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To: Kaslin

If you do not possess the mental acuity to acquire a photo ID, you absolutely should NOT be voting.

I guess that makes me a racist.


59 posted on 05/15/2014 11:27:38 AM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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