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DC Schools: $29,349 Per Pupil, 83% Not Proficient in Reading
cnsnews.com ^ | May 14, 2014 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 05/15/2014 6:40:50 PM PDT by grundle

The public schools in Washington, D.C., spent $29,349 per pupil in the 2010-2011 school year, according to the latest data from National Center for Education Statistics, but in 2013 fully 83 percent of the eighth graders in these schools were not "proficient" in reading and 81 percent were not "proficient" in math.

In 2013, students nationwide took NAEP reading and math tests. When the NCES listed the scores of public-school eighth graders in the 50 states and the District of Columbia, D.C. came in last in both subjects.

D.C. eighth graders scored an average of 248 out of 500 in reading, and Mississippi finished next to last with an average of 253.

Only 17 percent of D.C. 8th graders rated "proficient" or better in reading.

The NCES database indicates that in the 2010-2011 school year, Washington, D.C. public schools spent a total of $29,349 per pupil, ranking No. 1 in spending per pupil among the 21 large cities in the TUDA.

Congress ought to give every family in Washington, D.C., a choice of whether or not they want a government school to spend this money on behalf of their children. The D.C. public school system should be required to provide every family in the district with school-age children with a voucher for each child that is worth every penny the district now spends per pupil in its public schools. Families should be able to use that voucher at any school they want, anywhere they want.

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1 posted on 05/15/2014 6:40:50 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

We can’t expect the “youth” to be acting white in school, can we???? They gotta keep it real.


2 posted on 05/15/2014 6:43:02 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: grundle

A high performing black student usually ends up getting a beat-down from the rest.That’s a big chunk of the terrible overall ratings of inner city schools.


3 posted on 05/15/2014 6:44:43 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: grundle
Wait a minute....we are told over and over and over again by the politicians and the their sugar daddies the NEA...that more money solves these issues!!!!

What happened??????

4 posted on 05/15/2014 6:45:25 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: grundle

Note that (roughly) $30K per student means $750K for a 25-student classroom.

Let’s say the teacher’s compensation package totals $150K for the year.

Where’s the other $600K go?


5 posted on 05/15/2014 6:46:40 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: grundle
So, a small class of 20 kids eats up almost $600,000 a year. Pay the teacher $80,000. Rent a classroom for $20,000.

That leaves half a million dollars a year for books, teaching materials and field trips. Send the kids to Paris on a field trip and you've still got $400,000 left.

What are they doing with all that money????

6 posted on 05/15/2014 6:46:45 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: grundle

I can see why Obama abolished the DC school choice program. He wanted to help the children. How could they get a decent private school education for say, half of that, or $15k/yr/?


7 posted on 05/15/2014 6:47:44 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: grundle
They can spend all they want but black kids raised to believe that being educated is not kool will not gain much from the expenditures. It is the attitude which needs fixing, not the treasure wasted to offer something undesirable to the targeted audience.
8 posted on 05/15/2014 6:48:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: grundle

I thought the ‘RATS said “the children” don’t need to know how to read or write. They have “smart phones” to do that for them now.


9 posted on 05/15/2014 6:49:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Where’s the other $600K go?

Administration. The DC public schools have 100 times as many adminstrators per-pupil as the archdiocese of Washington.

Yes. 100 times as many.

10 posted on 05/15/2014 6:49:59 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: MHGinTN

and they purposely teach a bunch of PC nonsense too


11 posted on 05/15/2014 6:50:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: grundle

Average IQ in DC is 95. Per the interwebs.


12 posted on 05/15/2014 6:51:52 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: grundle

Inner city public schools are jobs programs for blacks. Their last priority is the education of children. A very common discovery in these schools is that many of the employees are never at the schools, they just collect a paycheck.

A new Superintendent in Kansas City required all school employees to report to the school on payday to pick up their paper check. You have never heard such a hue and cry and the payroll took a big and sudden dip. That guy didn’t last long.

It’s a big scam and the Administrators, teachers, parents, and politicians could care less.


13 posted on 05/15/2014 6:51:52 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Sidwell Friends is only $35k/yr.
If the taxpayers would just dig a little deeper, they could all go with Malaria and Sharia.


14 posted on 05/15/2014 6:52:31 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: GeronL; All
"...and they purposely teach a bunch of PC nonsense too..."



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15 posted on 05/15/2014 6:52:41 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: DuncanWaring

Pension fund,union dues,community action,Al and Jesse?


16 posted on 05/15/2014 6:52:56 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: grundle

$29K per student indicates absolute corruption in the system.


17 posted on 05/15/2014 6:53:09 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Former Proud Canadian

graft


18 posted on 05/15/2014 6:53:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: grundle

And the Republicans can’t do anything with this. “Oh we don’t want to sound like we want to cut spending on education! “ oy.


19 posted on 05/15/2014 6:53:46 PM PDT by Williams
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To: grundle

They grow up in houses with no books. What do people expect?


20 posted on 05/15/2014 6:55:00 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Farmer Dean

A high performing black student usually ends up getting a beat-down from the rest.That’s a big chunk of the terrible overall ratings of inner city schools.


This is a big reason why school choice is important. For those black parents, who don’t want to lose their kids to the streets, who want their kids to get a decent education, who want them out of those ghetto schools. Give the parents choices to send their children to schools where they will not be beaten down for acting white and trying to learn.


21 posted on 05/15/2014 6:55:26 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Former Proud Canadian

No gubbamint program is ever a failure. It’s just ‘underfunded’.


22 posted on 05/15/2014 7:00:00 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If I am not mistaken, parents in D.C. do have that option. The city sponsors numerous charter schools that a D.C. parent could choose from, if they so chose.


23 posted on 05/15/2014 7:00:19 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: PUGACHEV

Charter schools are still government schools


24 posted on 05/15/2014 7:01:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

There are so many flimflams running in the US now that they will only get sorted out with the total collapse of the Republic. The fiction that DC spends that much per student ON STUDENTS is a joke no one should be laughing at. Lying is the way our society is now shuffled along, shuffled along to the inevitable doom of liars.


25 posted on 05/15/2014 7:02:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Osage Orange
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"That’s Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation”

26 posted on 05/15/2014 7:03:28 PM PDT by digger48
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To: grundle

So why do they insist black kids must go to schools with more whites in order to have a better education?


27 posted on 05/15/2014 7:07:52 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: grundle
Pay the mothers that money to home school them.

Both learn and a family bond is actually created.

28 posted on 05/15/2014 7:10:14 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Under a free enterprise system, if real choice were available, the good teachers would quit the D.C. schools, rent a small classroom of their own, charge $10,000 per student, teach between 10 to 20 students, and reap a reward of $100,000 to $200,000 per year. If the kids didn’t learn to read, the parents could move on to a better teacher.


29 posted on 05/15/2014 7:11:57 PM PDT by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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To: PUGACHEV
That is correct. The $29,000 per student is system wide, all grades, for traditional DC public schools. But that does not include charters. 44% of the students in hte public school universe are in charters, which are accounted for separately and are less well funded.

Nor do the numbers above include private and parochial schools, or homeschooled kids. Adding it all up, I would not be surprised if regular DCPS have less than a 50% share of all k-12 students in the district.

The moral of the story is that failure is expensive. The average Catholic high school in DC is in the $12-17,000 range. A couple of the big names are in the mid-20's but only Georgetown Prep is over $30,000, and that barely over. I'm a little rusty on the numbers and don't feel like looking them up tonight, but iirc, the Catholic elementary schools are typically in the $3500-8,000 range, with most (I'd guess) toward the lower end of that range. The big name secular private schools are a bit higher. On average, however, DCPS is more expensive per capita than private schools, despite Sidwell, St. Albans, NCS, etc. pulling the average up.

30 posted on 05/15/2014 7:12:31 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I recall something about books being Kryptonite...


31 posted on 05/15/2014 7:13:31 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: GeronL
Charter schools are still government schools

Oh yes, but that's my point. There are good charter schools that a D.C. parent could send their child to, if they made the effort. My daughter worked in a D.C. charter school for a few years, and I visited her there often. A few times, I was even invited to speak at her school. I was always impressed by how attentive the students were, and how well the place was run. Also, as the article suggests, they had anything they wanted in terms of supplies, and the teachers, including my daughter, received grants to pursue advanced teaching degrees at Georgetown and Johns Hopkins. So, again, my point is that the opportunities are there for any D.C. student who wants them, but they are not being taken advantage of.

32 posted on 05/15/2014 7:15:01 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: grundle

Hire unemployed college grads... give them 2 students to teach - pay them $50,000 a year.

It’ll save $5,000 per student AND lower the unemployment rate among liberal arts majors...

A twofer...


33 posted on 05/15/2014 7:20:12 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obama - when will you tell radical muslims to stop clinging to their guns & religion?)
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To: grundle
For that amount of money, every child should get a stellar education.
If a private school failed that miserably, it would be out of business.

Whenever someone says the government can do something better than private sector, point them to public school, 0bamacare, or just about any federal agency.

34 posted on 05/15/2014 7:22:15 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: grundle

“The D.C. public school system should be required to provide every family in the district with school-age children with a voucher for each child that is worth every penny the district now spends per pupil in its public schools.”

PROBLEM IS, THEY WOULD USE IT TO BUY DRUGS....


35 posted on 05/15/2014 7:23:29 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: henkster

Some of the biggest problems in ghetto schools just aren’t discussed properly.

How do you deal with a culture in which doing well in school is acting white?

How do you deal with all the gang crap going on?

How do you deal with all the baby mama stuff going on?

How do you deal with kids in high school reading at a 3rd grade level? How do you give them remedial help that they need? But then, how will they respond to help, if trying to do well in school is derided as acting white?

How do you deal with kids who want to drop out of school, and make big money dealing drugs or doing God knows what with gangs, instead of thinking about a better future for themselves?

It just seems to me, that we go in circles talking about problems in schools in the inner city. Liberals tell us we need to spend more money, get better teachers, build new buildings to replace old buildings which have fallen into disrepair. Some of these solutions can help, but, so many such plans over the decades have been implemented, and unfortunately, have failed. So what the heck do we do now???


36 posted on 05/15/2014 7:26:44 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dalberg-Acton

“Average IQ in DC is 95”

I really doubt that it’s that high... More like 85%.


37 posted on 05/15/2014 7:27:18 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: digger48

And this half blank friend of Trayvon, can’t read cursive, probably can’t read well at all. Speaks so poorly.

Speaking of her, was she ever investigated for perjury? We learned that she couldn’t read cursive when she was asked, under oath, to read a letter out loud in court, which she said she had written. She clearly lied about having written that letter. What ever happened in that case?


38 posted on 05/15/2014 7:28:49 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: grundle

Total welfare for teachers. These people are fraudulent. Sue for money. The revolution is coming. You cannot screw our children!!


39 posted on 05/15/2014 7:32:06 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: grundle

The reason is obvious. I know older black teachers who say going back to segregation is the answer. Black teachers had respect and would discipline the students.


40 posted on 05/15/2014 7:35:17 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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Only 17 percent of D.C. 8th graders rated “proficient” or better in reading. <<

They don't read cursive any more..Draw your own conclusion...*S*

41 posted on 05/15/2014 7:42:06 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: grundle

Total welfare for teachers. These people are fraudulent. Sue for money. The revolution is coming. You cannot screw our children!!


42 posted on 05/15/2014 7:44:32 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Everything you described is a real problem...in suburban white high schools.

But as to the answer to your question about how we start to address these many troubling issues, my answer is always the same with all our social problems:

Stop subsidizing them.


43 posted on 05/15/2014 7:47:32 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: grundle

the next question should be:

why haven’t 82% of eighth grade teachers been fired?

additionally, immediate review of all other grades must be performed to see if the results encompass the entire student body

of course, any and all pension options for such teachers would be terminated


44 posted on 05/15/2014 7:51:32 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

More like 80:

http://www.mun.ca/biology/scarr/IQ_Bladk_White.jpg


45 posted on 05/15/2014 8:01:33 PM PDT by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: grundle

No matter how much money is thrown at this population, the turd remains unpolished. Big surprise.


46 posted on 05/15/2014 8:04:13 PM PDT by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: grundle

$29,000 per student and most are not proficient in math and reading.

That’s immoral.


47 posted on 05/15/2014 8:23:27 PM PDT by Girlene (Girlene is one of Rush's top ten favorite female names!)
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To: Farmer Dean

Obviously, funding for a study is needed, which will probably recommend that education should have more funding.

No one will discuss the obvious issues here.


48 posted on 05/15/2014 8:30:12 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: VerySadAmerican

“The reason is obvious. I know older black teachers who say going back to segregation is the answer. Black teachers had respect and would discipline the students.”

I believe that black AND white students need to have a big can of whup-ass opened up on them.


49 posted on 05/15/2014 8:33:04 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: TurboZamboni

Actually private sector business is also done this way. No project can _ever_ actually fail, because the failing components have been “de-scoped” until “phase x” - even if the failing components comprise the bulk of the project. Then, money and resource is thrown at it until it “kinda, sorta” works well enough to fool the right people into believing that the project is a success.


50 posted on 05/15/2014 8:41:01 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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