Posted on 05/16/2014 9:31:43 AM PDT by chessplayer
It’s everything you’d expect from All In With Chris Hayes, and so much less … less common sense, less intellectually honest, and less respectful of faith. Renowned Jesuit author Fr. James Martin looks at times like he’d accidentally wandered into a lunatic asylum during this segment, and after watching five minutes of Chris Hayes and Harvard’s Christopher Robichaud treat the now-cancelled “black mass” event like an actual religious practice rather than a hate-speech mockery of the Catholic Mass, Fr. Martin will not be alone in that confusion:
Martin offers a very close analogy when he suggests that Harvard wouldn’t have tolerated the burning of a Koran, even if wrapped in pseudo-religious practice. Muslims see that as a desecration of their religion, just as Catholics see the “black mass” — and given the nearly step-by-step mockery of Catholic liturgy in the latter, Catholics have a much better case to make. The entire point of this “service” is hatred towards Catholics in particular. Instead of addressing this point, though, both Hayes and Robichaud accuse Martin of spouting “false equivalencies” and start moaning over the power of “major religions” to keep the “marginalized” out of the debate.
Father Martin is not some finger-wagging, down-shouter of a shepherd (all-pulpit-no-pasture and forever on the harangue), and because that is true, and because his easygoing manner is well-known, you would think that his sobriety, here — his stark refusal to budge on the subject of Satanism, and the offensiveness inherent to any Black Mass being “re-enacted” in the public — would make an unusually strong impression on the host, Chris Hayes, and other guest.
You might think it, but sadly, you’d be wrong. No one in this video clip is thinking, “gee, Martin is no lunatic, and his gravity is palpable, so maybe there’s more to this than I know…” Rather, Hayes seems incapable of fully masking his amused condescension toward Martin’s concerns, and is willfully choosing not to hear his words; the two men prefer to travel campus-comfortable tracks, ranging from the predictable to the bigoted to the silly, with a side-trip to pick up a straw man. …
Notice, Martin addresses the “Black Mass” situation on Harvard Extension’s own terms. That body characterized the insult as a “cultural” event and compared it to a re-enactment of a Shinto Tea Ceremony; Father Martin suggests that a similar “re-enactment” of an anti-semitic or racial horror, like a lynching or a cross-burning, would quite rightly be a denounced as having no place on any campus or indeed in any public place. Why, then, would the mockery of the Catholic Mass be an acceptable insensitivity?
The answer does not come. Instead Hayes and Harvard’s Christopher Robichaud tries to rebut with overarching smugness. Unable to admit “rem acu tetigisti”, Robichaud suggests that Martin is intellectually “sloppy” and risks credibility by rejecting the priest’s very accurate question as a “false equivalency”; his argument essentially boils down to this: “marginalized communities” deserve sensitivity protections and respect, but “big powerful religions” do not. I wonder if he’d be fine, then, with a public burning of the Koran, since Islam, claiming a billion members, is a “big powerful religion.”
Satire everyone, this is satire...Oh wait...
Brave men and women die to protect pussies like Hayes!
Satanists are explicitly Evil but MSNBC is okay with that...
Conservatives are supposedly evil according to MSNBC, but they are not okay with that???????
I am confused here....
This was a pretty successful publicity stunt.
The “Black Mass” is pretty 19th century.
MSNBC and their like and worse in our society out do anything from the 19th century attempts to be evil or shock.
Someone needs to set up a Koran burning ceremony on at Harvard then sue when it’s not allowed. And the group needs the support of the people who love this country instead of condemning the Koran burner as some lunatic.
Satanists are explicitly Evil but MSNBC is okay with that...
Because they are a “marginalized community” and therefore need special rights and protections.
Conservatives are a ‘marginalized community’. When do we get OUR rights?.........................
It was good to see how adamant people were in their animosity towards these satanic fools. I wish it would carry over towards Satan’s real religion, Islam. Seriously, on the scale of evil, satanism is a joke compared to Islam.
Some people deserve to be marginalized.....
Wait...according to MSNBC, republicans and conservatives are Satanists. Ugh...I’m so confused.... :o)
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