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1 posted on 05/16/2014 9:35:19 AM PDT by Kaslin
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2 posted on 05/16/2014 9:46:44 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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While I strenuously oppose asset forfeiture practices, I’m tempted to try them out on employers of illegal aliens who didn’t due their diligence. Including private homeowners and those who hire the businesses who hire illegals (sorry, your suit has been seized from the tailor because they employed illegals).

Done right, they’d all go home.


3 posted on 05/16/2014 9:54:19 AM PDT by Freeping Since 2001 (Since 2001. Seriously.)
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At best, government is a necessary evil, best kept limited and controlled, but people trade liberty for what they think government can offer, and the beast grows out of control.


4 posted on 05/16/2014 9:59:43 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Kaslin
The August 12, 2013 New Yorker had a good article on asset forfeiture:

Taken: Under civil forfeiture, Americans who haven’t been charged with wrongdoing can be stripped of their cash, cars, and even homes. Is that all we’re losing?

The laws vary widely by state. North Carolina's good:

"Only one state, North Carolina, bans the practice [civil forfeiture], requiring a criminal conviction before a person’s property can be seized."

5 posted on 05/16/2014 10:04:20 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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I am outraged every time I read one of these stories. I do not understand how we the people allow it to continue.


6 posted on 05/16/2014 10:04:49 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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You can thank supporters of the war on drugs for this criminal behaviour on the part of government thugs. They cheered it all on.


7 posted on 05/16/2014 10:08:09 AM PDT by zeugma (Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened - Dr. Seuss (I'll see you again someday Hope))
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“Now the government can only take property if it obtains a criminal conviction or its equivalent, like if a property owner pleads guilty to a crime or becomes an informant”

Wait, “or becomes an informant” leads to confiscation? What’s the quid pro quo there? They took his stuff, and they could have put him in jail too, but they won’t put him in jail?


11 posted on 05/16/2014 10:50:11 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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Since I’m a public finance economist, I realize I’m supposed to focus on big-picture issues such as tax reform and entitlement reform. And I do beat those issues to death, so I obviously care about controlling the size and power of government.

But I like to think I’m also a decent human being. And this is why I get even more agitated when politicians and bureaucrats engage in thuggish behavior against comparatively powerless citizens.

He phrases this like he thinks it's a conflict or potential conflict. I don't see it. Reining in gooberment scope and expecting them to act like decent people is not conflicting in the least, as far as I can see.

13 posted on 05/16/2014 5:15:10 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Bonorum ereptionem delenda est!


15 posted on 05/16/2014 6:51:01 PM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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