[Mustangman]

I always ask my liberal friends this simple question: Can the US afford to accomodate every man women and child south of the US border? They say “no’, of course not.

Then I say, “So, we agree that there should be limits on immigration into the US. Our only point of contention is on what the limits should be.”

This gets them stammering. I next say, “In any case, once you and I can agree on the limits, don’t you think the government has the obligation to enforce them?”

At this point, the name calling comes out which I take as sign of intellectual victory. Logic...it truly is our best weapon. Try this on your lberal friends!!!

I do the same thing with voter ID laws. I ask, “Does the government have the right to ensure only eligible voters participate in elections?”

They usually sarcastically come back with “It isn’t necessary.”

I then say, “I didn’t ask you if it was necessary. I asked you if the governemt has the right to ensure only eligible voters vote?” Again I get them stammering, but if they even hint at a yes I go in for the intellectual kill.

“Ok, well if you were asked to enforce election integrity, what would you do?” In this way, I get them trying to figure out how to keep non-citezens from voting...even though they are against the idea. It’s beautiful!!! Try it out.

[kabar]

“Ok, well if you were asked to enforce election integrity, what would you do?” In this way, I get them trying to figure out how to keep non-citezens from voting...even though they are against the idea. It’s beautiful!!! Try it out.

As much as I share your concerns about voter fraud, I am more concerned about legal citizens (naturalized) voting. When you bring in 1.1 million legal permanent immigrants a year, 87% of whom are minorities, as defined by the USG, you are assuring that the Dems will be, if not already, the permanent majority party. CA is one of the most solid blue states and certainly the largest with 55 electoral votes due to legal immigration. It is LEGAL IMMIGRATION that is destroying this country. It must be drastically reduced.

Immigration's Impact on Republican Political Prospects, 1980 to 2012

Three key conclusions emerge from this analysis:

First, the enormous flow of legal immigrants in to the country — 29.5 million 1980 to 2012 — has remade and continues to remake the nation's electorate in favor of the Democratic Party.

Second, the partisan impact of immigration is relatively uniform throughout the country— from California to Texas to Florida — even though local Republican parties have taken different positions on illegal immigration. The decline does not seem to vary with the local Republican Party's position on illegal immigration.

Third, if legal immigration levels remain at the current levels of over one million a year, it will likely continue to undermine Republicans' political prospects moving forward. Further, if the substantial increases in legal immigration in Senate's Gang of Eight bill (S.744) were to become law it would accelerate this process. Conversely, lowering the level of legal immigration in the future would help stem the decline in the Republican vote.

Three related findings help explain why immigration reduces the Republican vote:

Immigrants, particularly Hispanics and Asians, have policy preferences when it comes to the size and scope of government that are more closely aligned with progressives than with conservatives. As a result, survey data show a two-to-one party identification with Democrats over Republicans.

By increasing income inequality and adding to the low-income population (e.g. immigrants and their minor children account for one-fourth of those in poverty and one-third of the uninsured) immigration likely makes all voters more supportive of redistributive policies championed by Democrats to support disadvantaged populations.

There is evidence that immigration may cause more Republican-oriented voters to move away from areas of high immigrant settlement leaving behind a more lopsided Democrat majority.