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The odds you’ll join the ranks of the long-term unemployed
Washington Post ^ | 05/18/2014 | Matt O'Brien

Posted on 05/18/2014 6:48:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Long-term unemployment is a terrifying trap that, even in the best of times, is difficult to escape. And it's a trap that you can get stuck in for no reason other than bad luck.

Today, there are still almost 3.5 million people who have been out of work for six months or longer and are looking for work. There isn't a more urgent crisis, and there are three things you should keep in mind about it.

1. As former CEA Chair Alan Krueger found, the long-term unemployed aren't much different from the short-term unemployed. They're a little older and more of them are African-Americans, but they're just about as educated and work in the same industries as everyone else who's trying to find a job.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jobs; unemployment
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To: Viking2002

Actually, that happened to me also at the age of 55. It does seem that then the companies thought that although experience was a good thing, youth and growing into the job was more important. Actually, I can understand that to some extent but they did take it overboard a bit and lost a lot of experience along the way.

Today, they do seem more interested in low cost employers than they use to - are costs that much higher? Don’t really know the problem but it does exist.


21 posted on 05/18/2014 7:42:10 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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To: Viking2002

yes, I’d like to personally thank Barry and friends.


22 posted on 05/18/2014 7:43:26 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Mastador1

I hear ya.


23 posted on 05/18/2014 7:45:00 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Alberta's Child

True, I will not pay the excessive cost of quick food these days as it is no longer worth the price. Can’t imagine that raising the minimum wage to 10 dollars will change that!

I fear that the cost of early employment for the young will be beyond the capability of employers or the cost of their output will be unacceptable to those that want their products. Government can continue to destroy the job sector or they can get the hell out of it... I think that I see the direction they intend to go.


24 posted on 05/18/2014 7:47:40 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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To: Deagle

Your statement is just another affirmation of the theory I’ve been holding. Youth and cheap labor trumps what us old guys can bring to the table. Why pay me $50K or $60K a year for my experience and knowledge when some 24 year old kid is willing to do it for $30K?


25 posted on 05/18/2014 7:53:20 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: SeekAndFind

“Today, there are still almost 3.5 million people who have been out of work for six months or longer and are looking for work.”

Yeah right. Triple that.


26 posted on 05/18/2014 8:00:48 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Viking2002

Yep, that was their excuse and whether it was correct or not is not up to me. Now whether it actually improved their profit margins or caused them problems is also not known.

But...you are right on, it does happen often (more often than many think) and is probably for financial reason.

Yes, call it old age discrimination if you will. I call it money savings at the risk of their future profits... but what do I know. I always thought that the training and delay in productivity was a negative compared to the immediate results by those experienced programmers.

Have some doubts though that it is actually a savings in the long run - would love to see some statistics on that.


27 posted on 05/18/2014 8:02:48 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Neither party is doing one spit, about American jobs.”

We now have government by special interests.


28 posted on 05/18/2014 8:04:45 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2

Yep, welcome to the real world!


29 posted on 05/18/2014 8:08:28 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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To: jsanders2001

Sorry to say that age discrimination happened long before this administration. Companies have now decided that anyone over the age of 50 regardless of experience is a detriment to their bottom line. It is a major problem but it seems that companies have decided in mass that it is better to hire cheaper labor than experience. Doubt that they are right but they do have the ultimate decision and it does seem to be universal.

Hope you can retire soon as it may be necessary regardless if feasible.


30 posted on 05/18/2014 8:15:47 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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To: Viking2002

I an American of Mexican ancestry have been out of a job for now 1 year and 7 months. Even unemployed no way in hell would I vote for a communist especially a black communist.


31 posted on 05/18/2014 8:15:56 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: SeekAndFind

3.5 million out of 325 million people. Aren’t we being a tad bit dramatic. A little over 1 percent......Oh knowssssssss....we are drowning. Good Lord what a liberal article. Poor bleeding heart liberals are hurting....Oh brother.


32 posted on 05/18/2014 8:20:49 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: napscoordinator

Wow! You have no idea what you are talking about do you?

One, of the population of the United States - you say 325 million, only about 170 million actually work for a living.

Of those folks, about 15% are out of work and most are long term.

Those that are out of work also account for the prosperity of another 30-40 million people. To you, it seems a small problem.

You are an asshole without a heart or common sense!


33 posted on 05/18/2014 8:26:05 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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To: Deagle; Viking2002

Soon going to be happening to me, too. Mid 50’s.

Served 24 years.

At my age, no other employer will get 24.

Loyalty means nothing. I’ll probably have a bunch of short term/part time jobs until able to tap retirement accounts.

What will it matter on a resume?


34 posted on 05/18/2014 8:36:44 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: lightman

Really sorry to say that you are right. Loyalty nor capability and experience seems to be an asset if over the age of 50. The good side is the Government decided not to penalize 401K’s (20% tax) after the age of 55 if you decide to cash them out due to non employment.

Guess that they understood the problem years ago but failed to act - as Government does...


35 posted on 05/18/2014 8:45:08 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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To: Deagle

Your resume (or background on this site) is so much better than your comments. If I overstated, I apologize but if you overstated, I expect an apology from you. Your background seems much better than your comments.


36 posted on 05/18/2014 8:53:49 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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To: Deagle

Sorry, this was directed to napscoordinator. Sorry for the misdirection.


37 posted on 05/18/2014 8:56:28 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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To: Deagle

I thought you had to be 59 1/2 yrs old to avoid the penalty.


38 posted on 05/18/2014 8:58:21 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: lightman

As a PFC-for-life, I salute your career of dedication to your country, sir. And you’re correct - loyalty means nothing. There’s no right vs. wrong ethic with employers anymore. You’ll probably be hired by a recruiter, and farmed out to a business who will cut you loose the second you finish helping them achieve their goals. We’re being used as throwaway parts by a bunch of androids out there, and the bottom line is the almighty accounting ledger. Our experience means nothing if they can buy someone half our age at 60% of the price. I was sidelined (again) five weeks ago with a massive bacterial infection. It took me four months to find that job after getting laid off from my previous position. Now, I’ll have to start all over again after I get medically cleared. I have no idea what my prospects are after that. Almost 20 years of IT experience that will probably not be given a second glance once some wet-behind-the-ears kid makes himself known.


39 posted on 05/18/2014 8:59:55 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: virgil

No, if you are laid off or out of a job at the age of 55 and you have a 401K with that company, you can cash out. It was with that company.

Can’t swear that is the case for other 401K’s but actually I think you can do that with any 401K after the age of 55.

Worked for me and enjoyed a 10 year golf vacation after giving up on finding a job at that age. Good luck.


40 posted on 05/18/2014 9:02:24 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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