Posted on 05/21/2014 7:43:26 AM PDT by Kaslin
It is about time that government failure had consequences for career political appointees and for elected officials.
The whole VA medical things is a scandal.
Our entire medical system is pharmaceutically driven
And these companies are feeling the crunch. They are pushing the C of C for amnesty
I agree, and the many complications are not insurmountable (e.g., a “doctor” shortage, since many VA doctors would not be employable in the private sector, where liability lawsuits happen).
Assuming your $80 billion figure is accurate, next step would be to estimate how many veterans there are now, and projections into the future, to derive how much insurance that would buy.
Vets don’t have a lot of money to bribe the jerks in congress... maybe that’s the problem...
Well, maybe ‘bribe’ is too harsh a term - vets don’t have enough money to ‘donate’ to the worthy re-election of our country’s blowhards...
Scrapping the va system which is more good than bad and exponentially better than what you’re about to see with obamadontcare is possibly what this brouhaha was put out there for
Placing vets into obamacare will reduce their care
So let us drop that, shall we ?
Hubby is a Vietnam vet who came home, went to work, and never....not once has used the VA system. How many millions are there just like him. Seems to me that with millions like him not using the system they should be able to afford good treatment of the ones that are.
It's like the sheiks of UAE taking beggars along on desert vacations - they get puffed up with all the humiliation people have to give to get something.
Close the VA down... let these jerks find real work where they're not treated like Gods.
Yeah, he was using his “angry voice.” Now he’s taking questions and has cooled off considerably, so I guess the indignation was just an act....
Same here...Vietnam veteran. Got a gold crown on a molar after I mustered out, but that had nothing to do with VA, just a temporary post-seperation extension of dental benefits. Since then I have not used VA “benefits” and as someone now on Medicare, I expect I never will. I’m one of the lucky ones, in many many ways....
Vouchers for veterans! Long live the free market!
I never said we should drop vets into zerocare....
They should sell the B&M assets and the government pays the premium for whatever health provider they want....give them no strings attached vouchers....
It is really that simple. ..
The VA has willfully murdered vets through denial of service and mistreatment for at least 40 years. Its not "a few facilities" at the present time as Obama claims, its the whole damned system everywhere.
So why now? What would be the motivation for a politician, known to despise the American military and its veterans, to suddenly care, to suddenly have a great awakening to VA misconduct and why has the mainstream media suddenly become so patriotic in getting behind this issue?
I see a couple of posters calling for the VA to be shut down. Obamas comments in his address today seemed to carefully insinuate that very suggestion at times. Why? Is the entire point to in fact shut down the VA to get all of those vets forced into Obamacare? Remember, this mess was originally Hillarycare. Are the same insurance companies, that were behind her and likely behind Obama, expecting some type of monetary gain in this big public/private cooperative fascist wet dream?
Is the VA not the problem Obama is trying to fix at all? Is the problem actually that too many know how the VA has operated. Has this malfeasance become so emblematic that it is one of the primary reasons people wont enroll in Obamacare? By feigning committed devotion to this VA issue is he protecting his legacy and protecting his benefactors investments?
So a "few" vets died recently and "few" more have recently been mistreated, really, "what difference does it make?" The fact is that the VA has operated as it was intended to for a long time or it wouldn't have been allowed to abuse veterans for decades...so why now?
It is NOT simple.
First, no way are our vets going to get better care than they do. It’s not just that it’s big govt it’s that people really won’t do anything about this worth anything more than talk
And they very often find excuses to resent the military
The only thing worse than government led health care for vets is publicly run health care left to the whims of people like Obama
And the second most important point is, insurance, doctors, clinics, hospitals, nurses, and private healthcare , plus pharmaceuticals, med equipment and research and development are all about to take an awl iron dive
People can deny it to their content. But it is over.
There will be no private sector health care.
Come on out from under the rock
And the last thing to do for vets is put them in the pool competing for the most diminished and expensive system of health care in history
They’ll be the first on the death panels
Spot on
You may be correct except for this....
-——There will be no private sector health care.——
I think at the end of the day after the government gets done ramming socialist medicine down our throats there will be a segment of the medical profession that will offer concierge medical services outside of government intrusion....
Basically groups of doctors who will cover a range of services for an annual fee....or a monthly premium ....
There is no reason why vets should not be allowed to join one if they believe they will get better care....paid via a voucher...
All probable. However, you can’t flood the system with vets, it would crowd out those seeking private care, which they have the right to do. Their taxes pay for the vets to get service.
The VA hospitals are good. THey are huge facilities and many clinics which already exist.
Fixing that is the ticket.
Utopian to think the private system will take care of vets.
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