[Agog]

Given that FR lately has turned into a platform for pro-Putin and anti-US propaganda, here is a different perspective.

[lormand]

Libturdians are noisy and sometimes appear larger that they really are.

[Mouton]

“Given that FR lately has turned into a platform for pro-Putin....”

I don’t think that is entirely correct except as it relates to when he is juxtaposed against the Kenyan. Most of us know he is a KGB thug but the one difference between him and the Kenyan, is Putin seems to do what is right for his country.

[norwaypinesavage]

Wow!! A foreign policy success for Obama. It must have been his “meals on wheels” policy (giving the Ukrainian army MREs) is what turned the tide.

[xzins]

Not fair to call it pro-Putin.

It is not pro-Putin to say there are no good guys there, and that there are troubling concerns with each side.

Nor is it fair to call it anti-US.

Obama truly has been incompetent in conducting US foreign policy. To criticize his and Kerry’s inept, weak actions is only speaking the truth.

[mac_truck]

Paul Roderick Gregory is just another neoconservative ‘whistling past the graveyard’ hoping the Ukraine doesn’t descend into complete chaos.

Good luck with that.

[McGruff]

I don't think anyone wants to see Putin become Czar of Eastern Europe but the current regime in Kiev installed by the US isn't legitimate either. My hope is that this Chocolate King Poroshenko can win a fair election and get Ukraine back on the right track. I would be nice to see it united again. Only time will tell.

[rbmillerjr]

You are right, but remember, like the RonPaulians, they are a small but vocal minority.

Propaganda presents as news, prior to, and during, news events.

News corrects propaganda when reality crystallizes.

[TWhiteBear]

The current social media onslaught has been as impressive as the one during the Russian of Georgia. Months afterwards, informed observers realized how screwed up the Russians were.
At time, Internet Moscow has foisted an All Russian Propaganda overlay on Ukraine news and events.
I expected a massive regional invasion by the Russians. Instead we have various factions of thugs making chaos.
Mr. Putin may have been distracted if the US sanctions seized this $40 Billion private stash.
It is difficult to maintain a clear discussion of anything about the Ukraine now. Following the various accusations that are common, I am now not sure if I am an Anti Putin Obama Supporter or a Anti Obama Pro Putinist.
At this point, while Mr. Putin has seized Crimea, the West has gotten forces and agreements in place all across Eastern Europe. Unfortunately, Mr. Obama remains the US President.
Pity that.
TWB

[FreeReign]

Six Reasons Why Putin Seems To Have Lost In Eastern Ukraine

It's interesting to note that that the author doesn't mention Obama once in his six reasons. Folks who have been following along with events in Ukraine over the last 15 years of more know why.

Yet we have folks here who have turned this thread into a Putin vs. Obama thread.

Not a good understanding by some of what's going on in Ukraine.