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Maher on Political Correctness: "Obama Was Against Gay Marriage In 2008, Does He Have To Resign?"
Hot Air ^ | 24 May 2014

Posted on 05/24/2014 6:20:52 PM PDT by mandaladon

BILL MAHER: New rule. Don't make me go back to my old title. Anybody here remember the 90s? The 90s, people? It was a crazy time and I had a show called Politically Incorrect, because back then political correctness had gotten so out of hand. I mean, blacks became African-Americans, Mexicans became Latinos and Indians became casino owners. Broken homes became dysfunctional families. Bums became the homeless. Crazy people became FOX News reporters.

It was a tough time for comics. One young comedian even got into big trouble for saying the word chink. (Guest Sarah Silverman).

Now I bring this up in 2014 because, unfortunately, political correctness is making a comeback, and now with the internet, it is easier than ever. In the 90s, you had to at least get off your ass to be in a fake mood of hurt feelings. You needed signs, you needed petitions, you had to feed Al Sharpton. Back then, getting worked up over nothing was a lot of work. And now it seems like all the internet exists to do is point to the latest person who said the wrong thing so the rest of us can feel morally superior. And that's not what the internet is for; that's what college is for.

Social media is all about gotcha of a homophobic business man, or a sexist cartoonist, or a college president who fat-shames his dog by naming it Waddles.

Last week, when the first gay football player got chosen in the NFL Draft, a player named Don Jones tweeted, 'OMG. Horrible.' As is his right, under the asshole clause in the constitution. But the Dolphins fined him and threw him off the team until he underwent sensitivity training,

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gays; homosexualagenda; maher; obama
A few weeks ago, the CEO of Mozilla was forced to resign because it was revealed in 2008, he supported Prop 8, California's ban on gay marriage. A bad law, yes, but 52% of Californians voted for it. Did they have to resign? Obama was against gay marriage in 2008, does he have to resign? Hillary came around just last year, can she be president? .............Hard to believe Maher said this
1 posted on 05/24/2014 6:20:52 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Wonder when he got the new writers.

But nothing bad said about MSDNC reporters.


2 posted on 05/24/2014 6:22:24 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: mandaladon

Oh, everyone knows Obama was lying when he said that ... so it’s all good.


3 posted on 05/24/2014 6:22:38 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Oh, everyone knows Obama was lying when he said that ... so it’s all good.

There's a lot of truth to that. And then didn't he announce that he was "evolving"? What a total crock. We are no longer a serious country.

4 posted on 05/24/2014 6:32:58 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: mandaladon

Here is my question.
Was obama involved in a gay trist when he murdered those in Bengazi.
And did he change laws in any way so he could not be prosecuted as in DADT etc?
So when did he change the law?


5 posted on 05/24/2014 6:35:34 PM PDT by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: mandaladon
It's easy to dismiss Maher by saying that a broken watch is right twice a day. But this more than just that. Maher is making sense here, and he's landing some hard punches on the radical left.
6 posted on 05/24/2014 6:36:56 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: mandaladon

Yes, coming from Mayer, it’s hard to believe he is in view of the tyranny out there!

I have always believed that it will take the Democrats to tame this monster loosed on our country, or it will not happen peacefully at least, at all.

I am sure there are some among them who are starting to break with the trend, but courageous action against it is not their long suit. Hells bells, it’s not even our long suit. Yet.


7 posted on 05/24/2014 6:41:48 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK

He conveniently forgot Macaca.


8 posted on 05/24/2014 6:43:55 PM PDT by billhilly (Its OK, the left hated Bush.)
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To: Aria
We are no longer a serious country.

Is that H. L. Mencken I hear laughing?

9 posted on 05/24/2014 6:44:19 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Tigen
My feeling, if he wasn't doing something, uh, untoward, we would know what he was doing by now. Silence equals guilt with this crowd.
10 posted on 05/24/2014 6:51:42 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: dr_lew

Here’s one..so true....

The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)


11 posted on 05/24/2014 6:54:22 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: mandaladon

He tweeted horrible when he was drafted? Or when he shoved cake in another mans mouth and licked it out on national tv?


12 posted on 05/24/2014 6:56:09 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Tigen
And did he change laws in any way so he could not be prosecuted as in DADT etc?

Obama isn't in the military.

13 posted on 05/24/2014 6:58:59 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: mandaladon

Bttt.


14 posted on 05/24/2014 7:00:13 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: mandaladon

People forget that Romney has been far to the left of Obama on homosexual issues, before it was cool.

Romney supported fully homosexualizing the military and gay Scout leaders, and full homosexual rights, 20 years ago and was campaigning on it, as governor he gave America gay marriage.


15 posted on 05/24/2014 7:02:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: mandaladon

He made some good points but, after reading his entire statement, I see he is just in favor of cutting people some slack, instead of persecuting them, until they “evolve” to the “progressive” point of view, or are completely marginalized by “progress” and are rendered irrelevant.


16 posted on 05/24/2014 7:15:07 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: ansel12

CIC is the head of military IMOHO


17 posted on 05/24/2014 7:17:47 PM PDT by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: icwhatudo

“He tweeted horrible when he was drafted? Or when he shoved cake in another mans mouth and licked it out on national tv?”

Even while criticizing political correctness, Maher engages in it.


18 posted on 05/24/2014 7:19:12 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: mandaladon

Bill Maher is a raging ***, and a liberal sack of crap to boot, but I will give him a hat-tip for being consistent to his own professed beliefs.

That’s a REAL rarity among the left, most of them don’t really believe the crazy crap they’re spewing, to them it’s either half-heartedly mouthing the latest gibberish prayers at the altar of political correctness, or a bit of clever misdirection to distract from their own racism and shady business dealings. In either case most modern liberals don’t have the slightest interest in actually being consistent or intellectually honest.

Maher though? At least he strikes me as an honest liberal, and I can’t recall the last time I saw one of those.


19 posted on 05/24/2014 7:19:28 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: mandaladon

It is. But it really doesn’t count with Obama. Everyone, left and right, knew he was lying to get elected. So it wasn’t sincere homophobia.


20 posted on 05/24/2014 7:28:03 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: jameslalor

“At least he strikes me as an honest liberal, and I can’t recall the last time I saw one of those.”

The freaks on the left who helped Obama get elected realize that they have lost their freedom of speech just like everyone else. Imagine the comedy Obama would have inpired even as far back only as the nineties? The teleprompter, foreign national, the jokes write themselves...and our (mostly liberal) comedians have to stand by silently.


21 posted on 05/24/2014 7:31:20 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Tigen

CIC is a civilian and he makes the rules, military law doesn’t pertain to him, he also doesn’t need a security clearance, because he is the boss of what a security clearance is.


22 posted on 05/24/2014 7:33:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: mandaladon

>> Hard to believe Maher said this

Not really. Even nasty people can grasp the concept of liberty.


23 posted on 05/24/2014 8:50:19 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Magic Fingers

>> Even while criticizing political correctness, Maher engages in it.

Noticed that. Must be ingrained in his vernacular.

To their audiences, Maher, Stewart, and the other tools only need to stay slightly to the right of Leftism to give the impression of being edgy champions of liberty.


24 posted on 05/24/2014 8:55:11 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ansel12
People forget that Romney has been far to the left of Obama on homosexual issues, before it was cool.

Most haven't forgotten that, but in November 2012 it was either going to be Obama or Romney. If we had won Congress in addition to the White House, we might have been able to reel him in on that issue. Of course we got neither.

25 posted on 05/25/2014 4:55:58 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: mandaladon
Obama was against gay marriage in 2008, does he have to resign?

Obama would be for or against anything, anybody, anywhere, any time if he thinks it would enhance his electability.

Of course now that he's won the world's ultimate political prize twice and can't run again he doesn't need to keep up the charade, but he's done it for so long he can't break the habit.

26 posted on 05/25/2014 5:39:46 AM PDT by epow ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." Patrick Henry)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Why defend Romney’s aggressive pro-homosexual agenda, with speculation and what ifs, and most people don’t know about his deep and enduring commitment to the homosexual agenda.

Most people don’t even know that he went back to being pro-abortion and running pro-abortion ads after he won the nomination.


27 posted on 05/25/2014 9:53:56 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
I'm not defending him, but the fact is it was either him or Obama. If you know of another outcome that was possible in November 2012, then please share it with us.

As I was saying at the time, we needed Romney to stop Obama, and a Conservative Congress to stop Romney.

This is why the libs are winning. They aren't all or nothing, but take their victories in small doses until they start winning big, as is happening with the homosexual agenda. Remember, Obama was "against" homosexual marriage, but they took what they could get. Now with Obama in his second term, it's homosexual marriage, full speed ahead.

Romney was no Conservative, and I spent plenty to beat him in the primaries, but we might have taken some ground back if he had won.

28 posted on 05/25/2014 1:17:57 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Romney was a big liar, pretending to be severely conservative - I am never voting for such obvious frauds. He was the worst possible candidate


29 posted on 05/25/2014 1:19:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

For someone not defending him you sure appear to be.

Romney was out to defeat conservatism and destroy the republican party, his goals were to make conservatism impossible and to leave it with no party to operate from.


30 posted on 05/25/2014 1:23:03 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: GeronL
I didn't vote "for" him either. I voted to prevent another Obama term.

And the fact is, our next President was either going to be Romney or Obama, and every vote Romney didn't get was one less Obama needed to win that state's electoral votes. If you know of another possible outcome, post it.

31 posted on 05/25/2014 1:25:30 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: ansel12

Our next President in 2012 was either going to be Obama or Romney. If you know of another possible outcome, post it.


32 posted on 05/25/2014 1:26:34 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

That is why I am not a Republican, I don’t have to vote for their idiots

If the candidate cannot attract the votes to win, it’s their own fault. It is not my responsibility, it is the candidates job to deserve those votes. It is not the fault of the voter or the non-voter that the loser was a turd.


33 posted on 05/25/2014 1:29:16 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Yeah, you are purely fighting for Romney, why you lied and tried to pretend you weren’t is just another sign of you romneybots.


34 posted on 05/25/2014 1:32:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Yep, it was going to be obama or Romney!

I'll take Romney ANY DAY over obama. Maybe Romney was not the best choice..... but he was certainly better than obama. At least Romney wasn't anti-American anti-business or anti Christian!

Carter got us Reagan but obama is going to get us communism and sharia law!

35 posted on 05/25/2014 1:33:17 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: GeronL
I get your disgust. I spent plenty to get a real Conservative nominated. One by one, their campaigns collapsed until Newt was left as the only Conservative alternative. He lost too, and we later found out that he wasn't such a Conservative after all.

In a way it is the voters' fault, or at least the voters' doing, that we got a RINO to run against Obama because that's who they voted for, because the attitudes in the US are shifting leftwards as we speak. If we want real Conservative candidates again, we're going to have to start trying to win Americans over to Conservative value values.

36 posted on 05/25/2014 1:38:02 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: ansel12

So now you’re calling me a liar? Show me any post where I defended Romney’s views on homosexuality. Include the comment where I defended him. If you can’t then be Freeper enough to admit you are wrong.


37 posted on 05/25/2014 1:39:53 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I’m not wrong, here you are taking on all comers as you fight for Romney.

You didn’t like the Romney facts in post 15, so you started your defense of him, you totally skipped over the detailed truth of Romney and went directly to the cheesiest defense you guys have, “he isn’t Obama”.

What are you avoiding and ignoring here in mid 2014?


“People forget that Romney has been far to the left of Obama on homosexual issues, before it was cool.

Romney supported fully homosexualizing the military and gay Scout leaders, and full homosexual rights, 20 years ago and was campaigning on it, as governor he gave America gay marriage.”


“Why defend Romney’s aggressive pro-homosexual agenda, with speculation and what ifs, and most people don’t know about his deep and enduring commitment to the homosexual agenda.

Most people don’t even know that he went back to being pro-abortion and running pro-abortion ads after he won the nomination.”


“or someone not defending him you sure appear to be.

Romney was out to defeat conservatism and destroy the republican party, his goals were to make conservatism impossible and to leave it with no party to operate from.”


38 posted on 05/25/2014 1:46:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
Exactly how is saying that "Romney isn't Obama" defending him? Our next President was either going to be Obama or Romney. That was a fact. If you know of another outcome, post it.

Of course, by pointing out that I skipped over Romney's less than Conservative record, you admit that I'm not defending his views. But then you accuse me of it anyway.

What am I trying to avoid in 2014? You're the one who is avoiding the fact that our next President in 2012 was either going to be Romney or Obama. You have yet to offer an alternative outcome.

And you didn't post any comment from me defending Romney's stand on Homosexuality, abortion, or anything else. Try again, or admit you are wrong.

39 posted on 05/25/2014 1:54:24 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

It is amusing to watch this, you are passionately and determinedly fighting for Romney in every post, and increasingly angrily, and all the while saying that you aren’t.

Among your lies about what you are not doing, is your calls for showing you defending Romney on specific issues, which I haven’t said you are doing.

Your fight is to not allow criticism of Romney on his issues and goals to destroy conservatism by ignoring those specifics, and going into your chant.

What got you to start posting on this thread, was this post.

To: mandaladon
People forget that Romney has been far to the left of Obama on homosexual issues, before it was cool.
Romney supported fully homosexualizing the military and gay Scout leaders, and full homosexual rights, 20 years ago and was campaigning on it, as governor he gave America gay marriage.
15 posted on 5/24/2014 7:02:06 PM by ansel12


That started your romneybot chant that we have heard for 7 years, “but he isn’t Obama”.


40 posted on 05/25/2014 2:06:16 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
It is amusing to watch this, you are passionately and determinedly fighting for Romney in every post, and increasingly angrily, and all the while saying that you aren’t.

Show me the post where I defended Romney's less than Conservative record, by saying anything other "our next President was either going to be Romney or Obama".

Among your lies about what you are not doing, is your calls for showing you defending Romney on specific issues, which I haven’t said you are doing.

From your own posts.

Post 30: "For someone not defending him you sure appear to be."

Post 34: "Yeah, you are purely fighting for Romney, why you lied and tried to pretend you weren’t is just another sign of you romneybots."

Post 38: "I’m not wrong, here you are taking on all comers as you fight for Romney."

OK, the words "Romney's issues" don't appear in any of those comments. If you're saying that you weren't accusing me of defending him on his views on homosexuality, abortion, or anything else but only defending him otherwise, then I'll accept that.

Your fight is to not allow criticism of Romney on his issues and goals to destroy conservatism by ignoring those specifics, and going into your chant.

Where have I stopped anyone from citicizing Romney. I've agreed with everyone, including you, that he is no Conservative.

What got you to start posting on this thread, was this post. To: mandaladon

People forget that Romney has been far to the left of Obama on homosexual issues, before it was cool.

Romney supported fully homosexualizing the military and gay Scout leaders, and full homosexual rights, 20 years ago and was campaigning on it, as governor he gave America gay marriage.

That started your romneybot chant that we have heard for 7 years, “but he isn’t Obama”.

My exact reply, note the bold, was "Most haven't forgotten that, but in November 2012 it was either going to be Obama or Romney. If we had won Congress in addition to the White House, we might have been able to reel him in on that issue. Of course we got neither."

Got anything else?

41 posted on 05/25/2014 2:23:54 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

What a fierce and determined defense of Romney you give.

You even do that thing where you twist “defending Romney”, to pretending that you were accused of defending his record.

Little did I expect to run into this much passion from a romneybot, for posting that accurate post on Mitt Romney in post 15.

Your very first post on this thread ignored the criticism and went to your chant, quote “Obama or Romney”.

You sure can pick them, mid 2014 and you are still trying to bring down the wrath of God on freepers criticizing your pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun, anti-Reagan, anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-conservative man.


42 posted on 05/25/2014 2:33:28 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
What a fierce and determined defense of Romney you give.

Yup, "Romney or Obama" is a real fierce defense.

You even do that thing where you twist “defending Romney”, to pretending that you were accused of defending his record.

Did you read this part: "If you're saying that you weren't accusing me of defending him on his views on homosexuality, abortion, or anything else but only defending him otherwise, then I'll accept that."

Little did I expect to run into this much passion from a romneybot, for posting that accurate post on Mitt Romney in post 15.

I didn't dispute your accurate post. My only point was "Most haven't forgotten that, but in November 2012 it was either going to be Obama or Romney. If we had won Congress in addition to the White House, we might have been able to reel him in on that issue. Of course we got neither." Somehow, you seem to equate acknowledging that fact with defending him, though not his record.

This passion is from being called a liar, and from being falsely accused of defending Romney by pointing out a fact that you haven't even attempted to refute.

Your very first post on this thread ignored the criticism and went to your chant, quote “Obama or Romney”.

If you know of another outcome, post it.

You sure can pick them, mid 2014 and you are still trying to bring down the wrath of God on freepers criticizing your pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun, anti-Reagan, anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-conservative man.

I would refer you to my numerous pro-Bachmann, pro-Cain, pro-ABR posts that I made during the 2012 primaries, but your mind is already made up.

43 posted on 05/25/2014 2:47:05 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

For a guy who isn’t defending Romney, look at who has created most of the real estate on this thread, and who is all worked up into a lather.

All of it you defending Romney against criticism. From “he isn’t Obama”, to now wanting people to go through your posting history to find times when you weren’t so dedicated to Romney.

Why don’t you just take a nap or something, take a break from your romneybot labors.


44 posted on 05/25/2014 2:51:56 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Show me anything where I defended Romney, other than acknowledging the fact that our next President in 2012 was either going to be Romney or Obama. Include the post number and my comment defending him.


45 posted on 05/25/2014 2:55:20 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

You jumped on the thread to defend Romney, and every post you have made has been to defend Romney.

Your dedication is over the top.


46 posted on 05/25/2014 2:58:18 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

If you we able to prove your point, you would have. Go ahead and take one last shot. Unless you post something worthy of a reply, you can have the last word.


47 posted on 05/25/2014 3:01:55 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Your posts are there to read, you didn’t jump on this thread to talk about the topic, or gay issues, you jumped on the thread to defend Romney, and you have done that to the point of obsession.

You started posting at me, and to the thread, because you didn’t like the topic related post of post 15, and you then hijacked the thread with your defense of Romney, with great vigor and passion, and a lot of the old romneybot animosity that we conservatives saw so much of during his campaign.


48 posted on 05/25/2014 3:20:08 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: mandaladon

A broken clock is right twice a day.


49 posted on 05/26/2014 4:12:04 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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