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Pelosi Resorts to "Blame Bush" On VA Scandal
Townhall.com ^ | May 24, 2014 | Kevin Glass

Posted on 05/25/2014 4:41:08 AM PDT by Kaslin

During the George W. Bush Administration, progressives were hailing the Veterans Affairs health system as a model health organization. Now that it's come out that the VA suffers from the same bureaucratic nightmares that all socialized-style systems do, progressives want to roll back the clock on their rhetoric.

Luckily, Nancy Pelosi has found the real person whose fault it is: George W. Bush. As Joel Gehrke reports:

Pelosi took a shot at Bush while saying that the scandal is a high priority for Obama. "He sees the ramifications of some seeds that were sown a long time ago, when you have two wars over a long period of time and many, many more, millions more veterans," she told reporters during her Thursday press briefing. "And so, I know that he is upset about it."

The Democratic leader never mentioned Bush by name, but she alluded to him early and often in the press briefing.

"Maybe when we go into war, we should be thinking about its consequences and its ramifications," Pelosi said while discussing the scandal. "You would think that would be a given, but maybe it wasn't. And so, we go in a war in Afghanistan, leave Afghanistan for Iraq with unfinished business in Afghanistan. Ten years later, we have all of these additional veterans. In the past five years, two million more veterans needing benefits from the VA. That's a huge, huge increase."

She suggested that Obamacare might hold the key to solving the problem.

So: during the Bush years, progressives loved the VA system and suggested its centralized and socialized nature were what held the key to fixing the rest of the American health system. Now that it's politically toxic, they've moved on - blaming George W. Bush for its problems and suggesting that their shiny new toy, Obamacare, is the solution.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; georgewbush; nancypiglousy; vascandal

1 posted on 05/25/2014 4:41:09 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Both parties are to blame, for allowing this to happen. They need to own it.

As for fixing it, first of all bust the public service unions that have a death grip on the system.


2 posted on 05/25/2014 4:44:21 AM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: TMSuchman
Union health plans are exempt from Obamacare.
3 posted on 05/25/2014 4:47:50 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Kaslin

Is it really anybody’s fault? Or is it the government/socialist system?


4 posted on 05/25/2014 4:54:19 AM PDT by all the best (sat`~!)
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To: Kaslin
Did Bush come up with the idea of -- in effect -- paying VA employees bonuses for hiding patients on secret waiting lists? I doubt it.

The bureaucratic nightmare aspect of the VA must go back to the VA's inception.

5 posted on 05/25/2014 4:56:57 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Kaslin
Want PROOF the EXEMPT knew, in advance????


6 posted on 05/25/2014 4:57:18 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Kaslin

I realize Nancy has never had a close encounter with the truth - but - it still boggles my mind that she has no sense of shame with her idiotic statements.


7 posted on 05/25/2014 5:04:28 AM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: Kaslin

Any sane person realizes that both parties have screwed our veterans. It is a constant.


8 posted on 05/25/2014 5:08:24 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Kaslin

Blaming Bush??? I tell ya.... The Onion has been on fire lately!!!!!!!


9 posted on 05/25/2014 5:10:36 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: Kaslin
"He sees the ramifications of some seeds that were sown a long time ago

So, because problems at the VA began before Obama took office, hhas absolutely no obligation to take any action to fix the problem, even 6 years into his administration - is that what we're supposed to believe?

If things are going bad at your job, and you were asked for an explanation, what would your boss say if you replied: "it's not my fault, it's the fault of the guy who worked here six years ago."

10 posted on 05/25/2014 5:12:44 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Kaslin

She’s the female version of Goebbels...


11 posted on 05/25/2014 5:14:51 AM PDT by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: BCW

If Goebbels had an IQ of 80.


12 posted on 05/25/2014 5:18:42 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Kozak

I hate to say this...but I’m sure he was way smarter than she is...even though he chose a screwball political party that was directly responsible for genocide of millions...she’s trying to catch up...


13 posted on 05/25/2014 5:21:46 AM PDT by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: Kaslin

She needs a new title that applies to people who are way, way, way beyond stupid.


14 posted on 05/25/2014 5:25:21 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: TMSuchman
Blame Bush, blame the Dems, blame whoever you want. The bottom line is a large bloated bureaucracy let a lot of people down. This is why Republicans are against socialized medicine, education, economies, etc etc. Things always tend towards maintaining the health of the bureaucracy rather than the task the bureaucracy was created to handle. The VA thing points this out so clearly, if this doesn't change people's attitudes, nothing will.
15 posted on 05/25/2014 5:26:51 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: BCW
he chose a screwball political party that was directly responsible for genocide of millions

Remember that America kills over a million of its own children every year: pretty much all due to Pelosi and the party of Moloch.

16 posted on 05/25/2014 5:29:52 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: GreenHornet

If you’re hired to coach a bad team and the team is still bad six years later, who’s fault is it? Plus, Obama made fixing the VA one of his main issues in the 2008 election. He provides more empty rhetoric than any politician in modern history. It’s clear Obama views his job as undermining the GOP, raising money, and playing golf. In his mind, Anything beyond those three tasks is not only not his job, it’s not even his poblem. He doesn’t run the government in any meaningful way and he bever will. It bores him.


17 posted on 05/25/2014 5:31:40 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: TMSuchman

Sad to say - the VA has been “broken” for a very long time. In the late 70’s I was training as a tech in 4 hospitals, and a VA was one of them. *One was state owned, one private, one county and then the VA.

It was my absolute least favorite rotation. As a child of a career Navy Dad, the “good enuf for gubmint purposes” mindset that was, even then - Everywhere there, infuriated me.

The complete disrespect meted out to those good men/women was appalling, and it does not surprise me that today, many have been left to die.

May God keep watch over them, because their government surely will not.
Tatt


18 posted on 05/25/2014 5:38:13 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr. Eric Cunningha.m)
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To: Mustangman
He doesn’t run the government in any meaningful way and he never will. It bores him.

Obama doesn't want to be president, he just wants to be a celebrity.

19 posted on 05/25/2014 5:40:12 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Mustangman

“It’s clear Obama views his job as undermining the”...United States of America. Obama is doing his part for establishing the world-wide Islamic Caliphate.


20 posted on 05/25/2014 5:46:08 AM PDT by abclily
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To: thesearethetimes...
Sad to say - the VA has been “broken” for a very long time

True. It has now come to a well deserved head. And, Obama owns it - ironic justice. Yet, I still will say to liberals, "Obama lied, veterans died".

21 posted on 05/25/2014 5:47:03 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Global Warming is caused by illegal immigrants!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

What he meant is that the VA is highly unionized. As in our public education system this means efforts center on what is good for the staff rather than what is good for the veterans.


22 posted on 05/25/2014 5:47:41 AM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: Kaslin
Nancy Pelosi is living proof that TERM LIMITS are needed.
23 posted on 05/25/2014 5:55:22 AM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Yes, but the question is - will their deaths matter? Will THIS be the outrage that wakes the American people, to force their “representatives” to act to stop the treasonous enemies in our midst?

I doubt it.

As the sign says - http://all-that-is-interesting.com/america-is-not-at-war-america-is-at-the-mall


24 posted on 05/25/2014 5:59:47 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr. Eric Cunningha.m)
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To: Kaslin

Nobody listens to spooky old Pelosi she out lived her usefulness years ago.


25 posted on 05/25/2014 6:00:14 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: TMSuchman

Both parties? I suppose but refresh my recollection about which party advocates a VA type system for all of us? Which Party is it that protects incompetent, malicious public employees from being fired because they are owned by the unions? I mean, even if “he who is responsible for everything that Obama has failed to do” wanted to have “fixed” this what steps could “he who is responsible for everything that Obama has failed to do” have taken? Bring in private competition? Fire some of this non-fireable people?


26 posted on 05/25/2014 6:35:16 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: sgtyork
I have thought for many years that honorably discharged veterans should receive a credit card at the time they leave the service that would be good at any hospital; the bills sent on to the VA or something like it.

Of all our citizens, why do veterans deserve second class health care?

27 posted on 05/25/2014 6:38:56 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: FlipWilson

Both parties have been aware of this issue since WWII & both parties have have only made it worse by allowing a further death grip of the public service unions around the throats of not only the Veterans, but everyone who has dealings with the gov.’t.

IMHO, both parties have only made it worse too. It does not matter who is in office or controls congress.


28 posted on 05/25/2014 6:46:43 AM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: Kaslin

Her staff probably has a flowchart to deal with any issue. Personal responsibility and doing what’s right for the country isn’t on it.


29 posted on 05/25/2014 6:50:31 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Agreed, My dad died in a VA hospital and my memories are that it was the darkest, most depressing place ever. OTOH I have done some volunteer activities at our local VA and it has a modern appearance and a pretty good reputation. Privatization is the way to go.


30 posted on 05/25/2014 7:01:20 AM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: Kaslin

Then she should have fixed it in during the past 8 years.


31 posted on 05/25/2014 7:56:01 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Kaslin

Is Pelosi having brain lapse problems?


32 posted on 05/25/2014 7:56:47 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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