Posted on 05/25/2014 9:46:22 AM PDT by Nachum
Please attempt to put to death the evil in your soul. It’s a project-— for all of us.
I can actually understand - not approve of, but understand - how this can happen once in a person’s lifetime. But what I simply do not understand is how people can actually have abortions numerous times.
“The Catholic love in my soul abhors abortion, the evil in my soul comes to a separate conclusion. Ying and Yang.”
I understand; I consistently vote against abortion, but see these stories as leading to less future advocates for reparations, affirmative action, permanentvictim status, etc...
Most abortion clients are repeat customers.
There is a lot of aberrant psychology going on here.
Yep.
I’m not a nice guy. I’m someone who looks at the truth and speaks it as it is.
The hard truth is that we, the US, are out of money. We’ve indebted the future living generations to an extent that they have no future of their own - they’re not debt slaves, consigned to paying off the largess of the current and past generations. This, IMO, is wholly inexcusable.
When I look at the fiscal state of the US, the grifters and welfare class are overwhelming the productive class. It is for this reason that I’m wholly and completely unabashed and unrepentant about cheering on the death of future generations of welfare recipients.
Yes, there is.
I think that we, the taxpayers of the US, should institute a wonderful enforced bit of birth control upon these “repeat customers:”
In the shop for a second abortion? Great news! We’ll throw in a tubal ligation for free. Done deal, future problems solved.
All birth control requires a level of adult responsibility and judgement to use properly and effectively.
These people lack that judgement and responsibility. So they use abortion as retroactive birth control.
Amend my earlier reply to replace “not” with “now,” viz:
“...they’re now debt slaves, consigned to paying off the largess of the current and past generations. This, IMO, is wholly inexcusable.”
About 24%, if recent statistics on unwed motherhood in the US black population are to be believed.
By the way, there’s no way to force people to use contraception. Various schemes have been tried, and we’re following the usual litany of “sex ed,” “free or subsidized contraception methods,” etc.
Short of forced sterilization, which they perform in totalitarian regimes such as the PRC, there’s little that can be done.
The population of the inner cities of the US have made their choices how they’re going to conduct themselves. All the preaching, cajoling, etc isn’t going to change a thing at this late date. It is high time that conservatives quit trying to use morality and preaching to deal with this issue and admit that the moral argument is no longer viable.
All that now remains is a choice for our civilization: Are we going to allow our civilization to be crushed under a wave of welfare dependency that has been allowed to breed on the taxpayer’s dollar, or are we going to look at the hard, unflinching math of our budget(s) and say “Well, the fact that so many dependents are having abortions might be morally repulsive, but it is preventing the collapse of our civilization?”
That’s the choice we now have in front of us. As Maggie Thatcher famously said about socialist governments: “They’re always running out of other people’s money.”
We’ve now run out of money. Look at the data coming out of the BEA, BLS and Fed over the last five years and you can see the writing on the wall in big, red block letters. We’re broke, and the ability of our economy to generate well-paid jobs is broken. Republicans have no viable solutions to this problem, all they can seem to do is repeat that mantra from the 80’s (”cut taxes”). The other party just wants to accelerate our flight speed into the terra firma with talk of more social spending.
In light of this, I choose to say what needs to be said. It isn’t nice, it isn’t of “high moral stature” or anything of the sort, but it does make actuarial sense.
'at a staggering rate'. Like this is something new?
Shame on all who welcome the murder of babies. When this life is done, what will such people face, if unrepentant, when they meet the Creator of those babies? Shame on all abortion-welcoming souls.
Actuarial sense isn’t worth compost in the life to come.
I’ve heard all this before.
You’ll be one of the pious people praying for civil order when the money runs out and the welfare hoards you’ve allowed to multiply at the expense of the productive people decide to take the model of government they’ve perfected in Detroit and make it a national condition. Look around Detroit and tell me that you’ll look forward to that: fire and police response takes an hour to two. Areas of the city are now dark, because they cannot afford to keep the streetlights on. Houses in some areas of the city can be purchased for pennies on the dollar of valuation 25 years ago.
Detroit isn’t a one-off. It is what is coming to most of the large urban centers.
You pious people, who keep clutching your Bibles, spouting moral indignation, fire and brimstone, have lost not only the battle on abortion with your tactics, you’ve effectively lost the war for limited government, free market capitalistic enterprise and a cohesive American with your tactics, which have done nothing to achieve your stated goal: the preservation of life.
Why and how have you lost? Your tactics have created a huge base of voters who vote in lock-step uniformity for candidates who espouse left-wing policies and positions, especially abortion on demand. Your only hope for success now lies in depending on poor turnout among their numbers.
As de Tocqueville observed, the American Republic will endure until people discover that they can vote themselves money from the Treasury. Your tactics have created a swelling underclass who do and will do exactly that.
Congratulations.
George Orwell - is that you? This is one opinion I never expected to read on FR.
I pray you see the light of the good that our Father places in ALL of mankind...regardless of social status.
I would blame politicians before I blame poor people. I don’t see how a high abortion rate has helped Detroit one bit, or will help in the future.
The rates of abortion in Detroit (and indeed in the US) among young black women is entirely consistent with their rates of STD infection, which are absurdly high. In order to require an abortion, sex had to come first, and the absurdly high rate of abortion, and especially repeat abortions, is simply a consequence of lack of planning, responsibility and adult behavior in sexual conduct that is indicated by the high rates of STD’s in the same population.
The precursor to irony here is the high rate of abortion in Detroit is easily surpassed by by the rates of abortions among black teens in Texas, who have over double the rate of abortions per 1,000 population.
The final irony is the perception that Texas is a “conservative” state. It might be fiscally, but where abortion is concerned, Texas is making the abortion mills in Michigan’s urban blight look like businesses run as a hobby.
well, bye.
There has not been much serious effort to promote the use of contraceptives. Planned Parenthood facilities have no interest in encouraging contraceptives--even when they provide contraceptive "education", it is done in such a way as to discourage its use (e.g., by stressing how dangerous contraceptives are, and how likely they are to fail). I've also heard that they purposely prescribe the wrong dose of the birth control pill, or hand out faulty condoms, so that even if their clients do use birth control, they still have a high chance of getting pregnant.
That's one side of the issue. The other is that abortion is sold aggressively, and abortion customers are not paying for the abortions themselves.
I think that abortions can be decreased dramatically, but that would require 1) no subsidizing abortions, and 2) getting Planned Parenthood facilities out of these neighborhoods and replacing them with real health care facilities. The abortion lobby is very strong, but some headway has been made in recent years, so these are not impossible goals.
And about the bottomless pit of poverty: the Democrats have been cultivating the poverty culture for decades. No education, no amount of telling them that they are better off being self-sufficient is going to break through that indoctrination. (My screen name reflects the fact that I was raised in that culture; it took a lot of self-reflection to break free of that mind-set.) I would say it is time to just cut off the welfare payments and make welfare recipients work for their checks--no extras like cell phones. I'm pretty sure that once the spigot runs dry, current welfare recipients will suddenly discover that learning a job skill isn't so bad after all.
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