Because they would like to be able to continue breathing ?
Posted on 05/25/2014 6:37:17 PM PDT by ckilmer
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When is China going to put out their coal seam fires?
When is China going to put out their coal seam fires?
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I’m not sure that the USA ever put out those fires. I recall stories about them 20-30 years ago in pennsylvania. They just burn on until they run out of oxygen or coal fuel.
If the USA didn’t put out those fires, the chinese never would.
This won’t make their neighbors happy either. There is an assumption that China’s rise can be peaceful, because they never were an aggressive empire, but we are already seeing them break this assumption when it comes to energy.
The Chinese don’t have to deal with the enviro-mental freak regs we imposed on ourselves. Why would they want to drop coal?
Tell that to Tibet.
Because they would like to be able to continue breathing ?
And, unfortunately, that picture is not uncommon or an exaggeration.
Homes in most of western China heat and cook with charcoal. The charcoal guy rides up every day to deliver loads of 1 kilo bricks of the stuff. When a cold snap happens, he delivers twice a day, and you have pollution like your picture. I was working in Nanjing that is powered by hydro. Not a coal burning plant in sight, but when it got cold, the streets look like your picture. It stinks too, 'cause it's not Kingsford.
Opps. Eastern China, not western ...
How deep are these?
The labor component must be trivial.
I don’t think population density will be a problem for China when it comes to harvesting gas.
They will simply move some poor people out of the way and drill their wells.
They had no problem moving villages farmers and destroying ancient temples and other irreplaceable ancient artifacts to build the largest hydro dam in the world.
the cost for a well there is four times that of a Marcellus well.
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I can’t say that I get the logic of this article.
To begin with natural gas prices in asia are freaking 4 times that of the USA. so the usa gas prices are $4per unit gas measurement. But in China the cost is $16 per same unit gas measurement.
So what the hey if it costs more to extract natural gas. They can get much more for it.
The Marcellus gas volumes are just enormous. But Sichuan volumes according to the article are 2.5 times larger. As the article states.
“On average, production from wells drilled in the Sichuan Province, China’s most lucrative shale formation, are about 2.5 times that of a well found in America’s best shale gas play, the Marcellus.”
Well alright if the volumes are higher than the cost per unit volume is going to be lower.
Something isn’t right about the article.
My guess is that the companies doing the fracking don’t know how to do it well. Plus they are faced with all kinds of infrastructure problems.
The USA has absolutely the best infrastucture in the world for fracking yet right now there are huge bottlenecks to moving the natural gas around in the USA. Those problems would be dwarfed by the problems China faces with moving natural gas around.
China just signed a natural gas deal with russia that requries china to build 25 billion natural gas pipline from the Russian border to where ever in china. This is a really simple pipeline. Its not like they have to install thousands of feeder lines from every fracked well. All the natural gas comes from one source.
There’s something odd and awkward about the article that doesn’t make sense. The author is motivated by something he doesn’t say and he brushes over stuff he doesn’t understand.
“Relative to United States’ shale-gas plays, the [reserves] of the Sichuan and Tarim basins are potentially enormous and, if successful, could rival the Marcellus in terms of absolute scale,” Bernstein Research said recently. It also said initial well flows in the Sichuan basin appear better than expected while costs were lower than expected.
source WSJ March 26th
Also from Platt's March3rd.
The Platt’s article provides a better, but bare bones, description of the challenges.
Why would a country with low labor cost order automated equipment?
If the Chinese costs are really higher it sure in hell is not because of pay. One hand on an American derrick floor probably makes more than two or even three tours worth of Chinese.
Bull Sh-t! If that were true I would order 2000 and put every drilling contractor in the United States out of business. I worked on the rigs for 17 years.
It is entirely possible to burn coal for central station electrical generation and not have your cities look like that. Electrostatic precipitators, filter baghouses, and sulphur scrubbers are all mature technologies.
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