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EPA’s next target in fight against climate change: cooking stoves
The Washington Times ^ | May 26, 2014 | By John Solomon

Posted on 05/26/2014 7:12:31 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: mountn man; ExCTCitizen

This is all part of the *feel good about myself* ideology. The wealthy young slackers who have no impetus for a real career can set up NGOs and pay people to manufacture the *sustainable* stoves they approve, then use the grant and donation money to 1) give themselves paid administrative positions; 2)finance trips to 3rd world locations to burnish their resumes; 3)finance 6 months at a time living somewhere *exotic* to also increase their organizing credentials, while forming relationships with 3rd world leaders. If the NGO is also considered a *charity*, they can usually get a nice tax deduction, as well.

They become *experts*, publish, lecture and go on to other NGO positions and sometimes then run for political office, all without ever working in the private sector.

These are the people born and bred to rule the world. Everyone else is just a stick figure populating the background and useful only in so far as they create a milieu for the elite.


61 posted on 05/26/2014 9:11:58 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Freestate316

I believe most of your scenario is already happening. I know a couple who had a small rural restaurant and were forced to sell it when the mandated environmental upgrades became just too expensive. If the owners don’t upgrade to EPA standards, they can’t find insurance. Also, they run the risk of failing an OSHA inspection if they have employees.


62 posted on 05/26/2014 9:15:12 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Freeping Since 2001

This is done through grants to US-based NGOs. See post #61.


63 posted on 05/26/2014 9:18:01 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I guess the UN is going to go after those “camel dung-fired stoves” in the Arab world. while the EPA goes after everyone’s natural gas stoves here. Natural gas cars good, natural gas cooking stoves bad! Last time I looked, we get electricity from a natural gas-fired generating plant.


64 posted on 05/26/2014 9:19:16 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: dfwgator

You’re on to something. Our present stoves will be grandfathered. We will not be able to buy any new stove that doesn’t meet EPA regs. Normally, kitchen appliances stay in a home when it is sold. That will be outlawed, unless it is new and approved.


65 posted on 05/26/2014 9:21:35 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: COBOL2Java

It’s probably coming to that, unless we get our country back.


66 posted on 05/26/2014 10:05:49 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: cableguymn

Instead of taking a sledgehammer to the new black electric stove left here when we bought our home, I gave it to a young family whose stove died. We still have the fridge. It is too expensive to replace. What kind of idiot buys black appliances!? They always look dusty and stick out like a sore thumb. Same goes for chrome. Ugh!

I installed a gas stove. No loaf of bread, roast, cookies... all foods- cooked on an electric stove is worth consuming. Dries foods out, hard to gently cook some foods, costlier than natural gas, worthless when pressure- and water-bath canning, etc. The only downer is gas stoves now use a stupid starter thing in the oven that must use electricity, otherwise, one can hand-light the burners. I purposely got a stove withou a computer/digital oven. I was lied to by Sears, who insisted I could hand-light the stove if the power went out. I miss my old Monkeywards gas stove....

I would rather cook over an open pit than ever use an electric stove EVER again.

If my husband did not insist on a microwave, that would never be sitting there, taking up space.


67 posted on 05/26/2014 10:16:37 AM PDT by hearthwench (Debbi - Mom, NaNa, and always ornery)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Too pop-up heavy to bother with.


68 posted on 05/26/2014 10:22:48 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: cableguymn
It's Wood-burning stoves

Didn't read the article, did ya!(not judging, I've done it, as well)
69 posted on 05/26/2014 10:29:57 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Teacher317
4.3 million dead per year? From cooking? Where do they get these numbers???

From the same cooked up studies that said asthma is worsened by coal plants, second hand smoke causes cancer and global warming is a real threat

Just an excuse to regulate every aspect of our lives....
70 posted on 05/26/2014 10:33:31 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There goes campfires......


71 posted on 05/26/2014 10:33:48 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’ll give up my woodburning (insert)stove when Mother Nature gives up her wildfires and volcanoes..

Regulate THAT, you @##$% feds!!!!


72 posted on 05/26/2014 10:36:53 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: RedMonqey

replace um with electric stoves..

problem solved ;)


73 posted on 05/26/2014 10:48:49 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

then your “something” is the cause. not the electric stove..

Never mind that smoke belching from the power plant... your electric stove is still zero emissions ;)


74 posted on 05/26/2014 10:50:04 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am more furious about this woodstove thing than anything else at the moment. The states better step up and tell the EPA to pack sand. At least GA.

We use a lot of woodstoves in GA and Mr. GG2 and I are getting ready to buy one or two. I’m thinking of going ahead and getting them and stick them in the garage.


75 posted on 05/26/2014 10:57:10 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The EPA was begun with an Executive Order, and could very easily be taken out with one.


76 posted on 05/26/2014 11:17:37 AM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: Big Giant Head

Yes so true and the only person who ever pledge to shut it down was Newt.


77 posted on 05/26/2014 11:18:43 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Our great summertime pastime of outdoor bar-b-q-ing is in danger from the Obama zombies. Maybe S’More’s too!


78 posted on 05/26/2014 12:02:00 PM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: Teacher317

Wow, that’s a lot of people having freak stove accidents.

How does that happen? If you were standing over your stove stirring a pot of spaghetti sauce, you slip and fall and the wooden spoon you had in your hand somehow hits first and then drives into the brain through the eye? That’s a lot of unlucky people.


79 posted on 05/26/2014 1:07:47 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: reformedliberal

As my dad said: An expert is this - an ex is a HAS been and a pert is a drip, so an expert is a has been drip. :-)


80 posted on 05/26/2014 1:20:53 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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