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1 posted on 05/26/2014 11:59:58 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

There is a provision in ca law that allows anyone to be committed if they might be a danger to themselves or others, for a 72 hour eval. His parents never did it. So he was legally allowed to buy guns. I know it’s not the guns, and he could have bought them illegally, but if anyone needed a 72 hr check, it was him.


2 posted on 05/27/2014 12:10:03 AM PDT by Yaelle
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John F. Kennedy.

JFK emptied the mental institutions.

“The last piece of legislation President John F. Kennedy signed turns 50 this month: the Community Mental Health Act, which helped transform the way people with mental illness are treated and cared for in the United States.

Signed on Oct. 31, 1963, weeks before Kennedy was assassinated, the legislation aimed to build mental health centers accessible to all Americans so that those with mental illnesses could be treated while working and living at home, rather than being kept in neglectful and often abusive state institutions, sometimes for years on end.”
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“Recent deadly mass shootings, including at the Washington Navy Yard and a Colorado movie theater, have been perpetrated by men who were apparently not being adequately treated for serious mental illnesses. Those tragedies have focused public attention on the mental health system and made clear that Kennedy’s vision was never fully realized.”
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In 1963, the average stay in a state institution for someone with schizophrenia was 11 years.
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Meanwhile, about 90 percent of beds have been cut at state hospitals—— that has left nowhere for the sickest people to turn, so they end up homeless, abusing substances or in prison. The three largest mental health providers in the nation today are jails: Cook County in Illinois, Los Angeles County and Rikers Island in New York.”


3 posted on 05/27/2014 12:11:04 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Wuli

Common misperception.

1st. The legislature crafts law then approves the final content to be passed to the governor, whose signature completes the process, enacting the law.

The issue of closing mental institutes predates Reagan’s Governorship.

In fact, the laws authorizing their closure were enacted under the previous administrations and legislator.

They were acting on public sentiment deploring the conditions of the institutions and it was thought the mentally would be better served by private practitioner, who also lobbied for “the business” to take over and put as many of the mentally ill back into society as productive citizens as practical and possible.

The result hoped for was a more humane process and restoring dignity, while helping them also become self sufficient productive citizens.

Reagan did close most of the “Empty Facilities” or former institutions.

That was what the law called for and was his obligation.

Similarly Clinton was bound by previous law to balance the budget as the Balanced Budget Amendment called for.

So yes, Reagan is responsible for closing most of the facilities, which were already empty, as per the law.

Even the best lies “must” contain an element of truth, by removing content, so a new context can be pursued.


5 posted on 05/27/2014 12:33:10 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Wuli

Next time just remind them that it isn’t the taxpayers burden too I up every kook. There was nothing stopping this guy from getting treatment.


7 posted on 05/27/2014 12:45:42 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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ACLU VS Gov Brown: Brown was directed to clean out all those who could visit local county clinics for treatment. Regan was elected and had to comply.


9 posted on 05/27/2014 1:15:25 AM PDT by Domangart (LBGT = NAMBLA)
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To: Wuli

Tell your friend that this was a wealthy family and could afford any care they wanted. Access to mental care had nothing to do with what happened and that should be obvious to even the hyper partisan.


10 posted on 05/27/2014 1:16:20 AM PDT by DB
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To: Wuli

Don’t waste your time argueing with idiots. These people are truly dumb yet believe they’re the smartest person in every roon they’re in. You would do yourself a favor by removing these types of people from you life. If you don’t, there will eventually be a big blow up and the relationship will end. Do it now and save yourself a lot of grief. And believe me, you won’t be able to stop this guy from expressing his oppinion. You can ask and ask and then eventually beg but he’ll keep on telling you Reagan was evil and Sarah Palin is stupid.


15 posted on 05/27/2014 1:51:19 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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Actually you need to look to the ACLU as the parent of this issue. They decided that even people who demonstrably could not function had rights to defend. That is why there Re so many sick and homeless on the streets


16 posted on 05/27/2014 2:57:59 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Wuli

I don’t have any uber liberal friends.


17 posted on 05/27/2014 3:05:39 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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