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Ratcliffe: Undocumented immigrants would “self deport” if jail time was on the table
Dallas News ^ | March 19, 2014 | Nick Swartsell

Posted on 05/27/2014 7:24:35 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal

John Ratcliffe, Rep. Ralph Hall’s challenger in the Republican primary runoff, told the Washington Post today that one way to secure America’s borders is by putting undocumented immigrants in jail instead of simply removing them from the country.

Ratcliffe said that under current laws, being in the country without documentation leads only to deportation. If undocumented immigrants faced jail time, however, he said many would leave of their own accord.

(Excerpt) Read more at trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; heartless; perry; rick; texas
The fraud they commit is act of love for a plasma television.
1 posted on 05/27/2014 7:24:35 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Ratcliffe is correct. I sure hope he succeeds in today’s runoff—he won’t be a vote for Boehner.


2 posted on 05/27/2014 7:29:18 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico

It worked then, it would work now.

3 posted on 05/27/2014 7:30:57 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Ratcliffe has been declared the winner. Last I checked he had 4.4 lead.


4 posted on 05/27/2014 7:32:00 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
In Singapore, they confiscate their assets via stiff fines and both imprison and flog them, before deporting them at the end of their sentences.
5 posted on 05/27/2014 7:33:49 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Even more effective would be a $10,000 fine for knowingly hiring an illegal and jail time for the 2nd offense.


6 posted on 05/27/2014 7:33:58 PM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: House Atreides

There would also be a lot of self deport if welfare bennies were ended.


7 posted on 05/27/2014 7:34:12 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladlyÂ…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: Sparticus

Also good.


8 posted on 05/27/2014 7:34:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

“self-deport”

Does this mean, leave?

The English language itself is degenerating at least as quickly as the people who are trying to use it.


9 posted on 05/27/2014 7:36:36 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Seems like title 8, section 1325 says otherwise in regard to jail time.


10 posted on 05/27/2014 7:38:14 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Sparticus

BUMP!


11 posted on 05/27/2014 7:43:25 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

And/or jail time for those who employ them.


12 posted on 05/27/2014 7:45:45 PM PDT by nomad
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Especially if the jail time included working ... like cutting brush, digging holes for the border fences, etc.


13 posted on 05/27/2014 7:51:01 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (If you lined up the best and brightest of this administration, you'd just have a string of dim bulbs)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

or stop the FREE Food , Housing and Cash


14 posted on 05/27/2014 7:53:49 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

E-Verify is the most powerful self-deportation method by far but isn’t used.


15 posted on 05/27/2014 8:00:44 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Or they couldn’t get a job or they couldn’t receive welfare or food stamps or medical or anything a US citizen can receive.


16 posted on 05/27/2014 8:02:39 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: The Antiyuppie

“self-deport”

Does this mean, leave?

The English language itself is degenerating at least as quickly as the people who are trying to use it.
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Actually, English is a vibrant language that adds new words as needed. And “self-deportation” means far more than just simply illegals leaving on their own initiative. Self-deportation comes about when the situation in the host country is made so unbearable for illegal aliens (can’t get benefits, education, jobs, etc.) that they voluntarily flee the now unfriendly host country.

Of course the Chamber of Commerce hates the concept and will fight tooth and nail any attempts to implement it.


17 posted on 05/27/2014 8:06:01 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Sparticus

Bingo. Jail and fine a few of the Chamber of Commerce bastards into penury and we might see things take a positive turn. I would go further: $10,000 per knowing hire, but $5,000.00 per negligent hire (the cases where the employer should have known had he exercised due diligence in hiring practices). In addition to 1 year and a day in jail for the second offense, I would require state authorities to administratively dissolve any legal business entity in question, with all assets including IP auctioned off to pay the bondholders and shareholders. Also would want an exception specifically piercing the corporate veil to allow any damaged investors to seek recovery from directors and officers personally. We need to deport the illegals, but we need to punish those who hire them.


18 posted on 05/27/2014 8:09:45 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: House Atreides

Bingo!!!

The Reps. Won’t push it for fear of losing money from the Chamber of Amnesty


19 posted on 05/27/2014 8:11:30 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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20 posted on 05/27/2014 8:12:39 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

We have to stop the flow of people coming in. Until we do that all other discussion is pointless.


21 posted on 05/27/2014 8:34:31 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

“If undocumented immigrants faced jail time, however, he said many would leave of their own accord.”

That’s a waist of time and money. Just make it a class A
felony to hire a wetback. Confiscate everything the criminal
employer owns as ill gotten gains and then incarcerate them
for no less than 10 years. Then put them on a system like
the sex crime criminals get where they have to register
and report to the state their whereabouts.


22 posted on 05/27/2014 8:38:53 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
The fraud they commit is act of love for a plasma television.

LOL - take THAT Jeb Bush!

23 posted on 05/27/2014 8:43:58 PM PDT by GOPJ (>The Mainstream Ministry of Information does not stand for liberty. Freeper Gene Eric)
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To: Slambat

Those two things shouldn’t be mutually exclusive.


24 posted on 05/27/2014 9:07:33 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Sparticus
How about all of the above? Severe sanctions for illegal scumbag aliens, those who hire them, and the politicians who ignore the laws they enacted to keep them out.

No Way Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

25 posted on 05/27/2014 9:33:32 PM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
thanks, for the post. ;-)

26 posted on 05/28/2014 12:24:35 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: Sparticus

Even more effective would be a $10,000 fine for knowingly hiring an illegal and jail time for the 2nd offense.


Perhaps. Or make it like illegal drugs, and have civil asset forfeiture. Lose your vehicles, real estate, or other business assets if you hire an illegal without doing a check. Lose your house if you hire illegal day laborers to clean up your yard without checking their legality.

You could leave the borders wide open with that (and ending welfare for illegals).


27 posted on 05/28/2014 5:26:12 AM PDT by Freeping Since 2001 (Since 2001. Seriously.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
Them: "You can't deport 11 million people!"

Me: "You don't have to. Deport one million. Lock up another million. The rest will take the hint!"

28 posted on 05/28/2014 10:46:39 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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