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Moscow’s lies about Ukraine brutally exposed
Ukraine News One ^ | 26 may 2014 | Ukraine News One

Posted on 05/28/2014 11:00:53 AM PDT by WhiskeyX

Ukraine’s presidential elections have been lauded as a great success with record voter turnout for a clean and democratic vote which saw ‘chocolate king’ Petro Poroshenko win by a landslide and invigorate hope that Ukraine may have turned a corner.

But the election results have also underlined the breathless determination of the Kremlin to distort, fabricate and disseminate news in a campaign of demonisation against Ukraine.

Moscow’s propaganda machine hit new heights of absurdity on Sunday when Russia’s First TV channel reported that the Kremlin's No. 1 bogeyman, Dmytro Yarosh, leader of the far-right Pravy Sektor Party was leading the presidential race with 37% of the votes, with Petro Poroshenko trailing far behind on 29 percent.

The uncomfortable truth for Moscow however was that Pravy Sector’s Dmytro Yarosh and the other far-right nationalist party leader Oleg Tyahnybok of Svoboda couldn’t even muster 1% of the vote between them.

The Kremlin’s lies about Ukraine are further exposed by the performance of Jewish oligarch Vadim Rabinovych who, with 2% of the vote got double the amount of the far-right parties combined.

This in a country, according to the Russian president, where Jews are not safe and pogroms are making a big comeback.

By current European standards, with far-right parties sweeping to victory in European elections this week, support for the far right is lower in Ukraine than in virtually any other European nation.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine

1 posted on 05/28/2014 11:00:53 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

The Ukranians need their own rifle barrel making company and allow all citizens to own an assault rifle.


2 posted on 05/28/2014 11:06:44 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: WhiskeyX

When have Russians ever told the truth about anything? A good gauge of the truth is believing the opposite of whatever a Russian is saying.


3 posted on 05/28/2014 11:17:51 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Did Putin promise that you can keep your Doctor? Period.


4 posted on 05/28/2014 11:23:38 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Deodorant and Common sense. The ones who need it most don't use it. . . . .)
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To: free_life

A good gauge was watching them whine about the election results.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 11:25:08 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Others, primarily Russian propagandists and their apologists in the West, have gone even further, stating that Ukraine’s new government was not only illegitimate, but nationalist and fascist. To justify their blatant propagandistic rhetoric, the Kremlin’s advocates pointed to an alleged dominance of ultra-right political forces in the government, allegedly formed at gun-point by the “radical” leaders of the Euromaidan protests. The prime targets of the “outbreak of fascism in Ukraine” line of argument were the Ukrainian nationalist party Svoboda and the radical revolutionary movement Right Sector. Over the last six months both have been vilified and demonized – largely unjustly – by Putin’s propaganda and its western stooges. More importantly, the myth about Neo-nazis roaming and ravaging the streets of Kyiv and other Ukrainian cities was the main weapon of a mass-media campaign intended to delude the local population, and used by Putin in Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea, as well as in Russia’s military subversion aimed at destabilizing the eastern Ukrainian regions of Donbass and Luhansk. All of Putin’s recent public statements about Ukraine, without exception, were peppered with insulting – and inaccurate – references to fascists and blood-thirsty Gestapo torturers in the illegitimate Ukrainian government, who torment and kill peaceful Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine. The outcome of the early presidential elections, however, has blown Russian propagandists out of the water: the core, as Kremlin would have the world believe, of Ukraine’s new fascists – Svoboda and Right Sector – received a mere 1,9 percent of the votes nationwide. At the same time, far-right nationalist parties in other European countries are on the unprecedented rise. In the most recent European Parliament elections, which took place on the same day as Ukraine’s Presidential vote, right-wing forces have caused what some commentators have described as a “political earthquake” or a “tsunami”. Nationalist parties claimed astonishingly high results in such countries as France (25 percent), Denmark (23 percent), Austria (20 percent) and Belgium (30-32 percent). These are results Ukrainian “fascists” could only dream of. Ukraine’s Presidential elections, therefore, pose an awkward challenge for Putin’s propagandists: how to explain, at least to their domestic audience, the absence of fascists in Ukraine, the crusade against whom was used by Putin as a justification for most of his recent internationally-recognized crimes against the Ukrainian people.
6 posted on 05/28/2014 12:22:14 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: WhiskeyX
Funny how the propaganda only works on western liberals.
7 posted on 05/28/2014 12:24:32 PM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: hubel458
One must remember that to the average eurocrat or their fellow travelers, anyone who is not a transnational progressive and WEIRD (look it up)is a right winger if they give voice to their political or social beliefs. This is not to say that some of them are not fascist or socialist. Some of them are just nationalist, both left and right. But to the cosmopolitans, anyone who does not agree with them is an evil right winger nut.
8 posted on 05/28/2014 12:34:21 PM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: WhiskeyX

“Ukraine News One” - Your tax dollars at work.


9 posted on 05/28/2014 12:35:13 PM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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To: McGruff

That’s ok, visit RT.com to settle your mind.


10 posted on 05/28/2014 12:37:08 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

What if I told you your leaders were lying to you

Is that where ‘’ little writing men ‘’ learned their trade


11 posted on 05/28/2014 12:47:16 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: hubel458

English isn’t your primary language is it?


12 posted on 05/28/2014 12:52:39 PM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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To: free_life
When have Russians ever told the truth about anything?

I think you are painting with an awfully broad brush.

If you mean Russian 'leaders', then I might agree with you. Additionally, it depends on who they are talking to.

Since our leaders lie to us ALL THE TIME, does that mean they are Russian ?

13 posted on 05/28/2014 1:05:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: McGruff

I doubt that it’s yours either. At least when his phone rings, he doesn’t see Cyrillic.


14 posted on 05/28/2014 1:09:37 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

So..
You have FINALLy admitted that you are not an American.

Very enlightening, and explains a lot. Tell us, which NGO do you work for, again?


15 posted on 05/28/2014 2:16:47 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Come to Chicago, anytime. I’ll buy you a drink, and then kick your commie ass.


16 posted on 05/28/2014 2:17:31 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Just drop him off on the street in South Chicago among his fellow travelers.


17 posted on 05/28/2014 2:36:14 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Actually, I was born on the South Side. West Side, maybe.


18 posted on 05/28/2014 3:01:17 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: WhiskeyX; McGruff
In the interests of transparency, I'd just like to point that Ukraine News One was founded and is funded by the Ukrainian-Jewish oligarchs Igor Kolomoisky and Vadim Rabinovich, who are both deeply invested into the Maidan government.

Both of them have an interest in opposing Putin in Ukraine.

19 posted on 05/28/2014 4:51:46 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

Putin should not be in Ukraine.

Why shouldn’t they oppose a foreign despot trying to chop up their country?


20 posted on 05/28/2014 4:54:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Corporate Democrat

Interesting that you would identify them as Jewish. You have a problem with that . . . ?


21 posted on 05/28/2014 5:00:32 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: GeronL

I’d agree that that is probably the sentiment of the majority of average Ukrainians, even in the East. And I stand with them on that.

But these guys are robber barons who probably oppose Putin more because they fear he will confiscate their money and assets and give them to Russian oligarchs instead.

As a network owned and operated by these guys, they are probably extremely biased.


22 posted on 05/28/2014 5:01:15 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: 1rudeboy

No.


23 posted on 05/28/2014 5:02:32 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

Then drop it, next time.


24 posted on 05/28/2014 5:02:58 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

It’s relevant when the the article I linked has a network called ‘Jewish News One’ turning into “Ukraine News One’, and is referred to in the article as Ukrainian Jewish businessmen.


25 posted on 05/28/2014 5:07:00 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

They’ll try anything if losing the discussion.


26 posted on 05/28/2014 5:10:22 PM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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To: Corporate Democrat

All networks are biased and people have every right to spread their ideas and thoughts and opinions.

I see very little different in either side on Ukraine, I hope the people of that country can find a way to bring about some serious changes.


27 posted on 05/28/2014 5:12:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

I hope so too. The problem I see with Ukraine currently is that even if Putin and his Russian insurgents are removed from Ukraine, that it will be back to business for the Ukrainian oligarchs.

These are the guys who have been pillaging the country, often with Russian complicity. These oligarchs and their political pawns must be removed before freedom and prosperity can truly bloom in Ukraine.

Hopefully Poroshenko can work towards that, although I’m not too hopeful considering that Poroshenko himself isan oligarch. Not to mention that the very same oligarchs corrupted the 2004 Orange Revolution in a very similar way.


28 posted on 05/28/2014 5:18:38 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

I hope so too. The problem I see with Ukraine currently is that even if Putin and his Russian insurgents are removed from Ukraine, that it will be back to business for the Ukrainian oligarchs.


Many of the guys who were in the Maidan protest are now front line Ukrainian troops. Poroshenko is being watched closely and they won’t be allowing “business as usual”. Too much blood has been spilled for that.


29 posted on 05/28/2014 5:25:49 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: 1rudeboy

Apparently Victoria Nuland has been running around Europe voting for nutballs in an effort to discredit the Russian position RE “fascist” Ukraine.


30 posted on 05/28/2014 5:27:08 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: WhiskeyX

It’s not South Chicago, it’s “da Sowt Side”.


31 posted on 05/28/2014 6:05:47 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Corporate Democrat
I had hopes for Poroshenko but attacking Donetsk on his first day in office tells me nothing has changed and this won't be resolved anytime soon.
32 posted on 05/28/2014 6:12:48 PM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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To: lodi90

voting for nutballs

A lot of the right nutball support come through
backdoor channels from russia, as russia has more
nazis than all the rest of the world...Ed


33 posted on 05/28/2014 6:13:23 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: Corporate Democrat

~These are the guys who have been pillaging the country, often with Russian complicity~

What about a complicity of other players?
You mean there are saint Ukrainian ‘businessmen’ who are pro-Western contrary to evil pro-Russian ‘oligarchs’? LOL!

I think propaganda from both sides has made absolutely distorted perception of things going on there.


34 posted on 05/28/2014 6:22:12 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
Ukraine's oligarchs and overall economy is tied much closer to Russia for historical and geopolitical reasons. The West is kind of farther away on both these things, so not really.

Even Yulia "Gas Princess" Tymoshenko and Petro "Chocolate King" Poroshenko made huge chunks of their fortune dealing with Russia. Yulia was tossed into prison over allegations for corruption in a gas deal with Russia, not Europe. There's a reason for that.

35 posted on 05/28/2014 6:33:35 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: 1rudeboy

It’s always time to blame the Jooze.


36 posted on 05/28/2014 7:16:42 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Corporate Democrat

tossed into prison..

And released because the charges were balony, trumped

up by yanuassho, because she was getting support to

run for his job..about gas deal— she went to russia and got

the gas turned back on , when some were freezing..


37 posted on 05/28/2014 7:19:53 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: hubel458
Russian media are using photos from Syria to tell the world about the "children, murdered in Ukraine"... The phony post above says: "I cannot hold my tears... This 8 y.o. child is wounded near Donetsk airport". The post below shows the same child, but he was wounded during shooting near Aleppo, Syria. Российские СМИ растиражировали информацию о ранении ребенка в Донецке. Как это было.
38 posted on 05/28/2014 7:37:04 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: Corporate Democrat

......Yulia “Gas Princess” Tymoshenko and Petro “Chocolate King” Poroshenko made huge chunks of their fortune dealing with Russia......

That’s correct....not to mention these two had a major falling out while they were serving in the Keiv Gov. Yulia will do what is necessary to retain and or regain power within Ukraine. It will be interesting to see if she will have a roll in the Gov. or not this time around.

For now Yats will remain the Prime Minister according to Porsh. These two have worked together in the past Ukraine Gov. Yats is the “money man” or Banker Buddy. He’s the one who got Ukraine’s gold out of Ukraine the first week.

I don’t think they want to give Yulia a role...she is was known to be divisive and a pain in getting things done. I don’t think they want to deal with her again. However they might have to.


39 posted on 05/28/2014 7:52:55 PM PDT by caww
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‘’ge chunks of their fortune dealing with Ru’’

Selling things to russia, hmmn, now they can sel to EU

She has some doings in gov. isn’t she member of Rada.

‘’Yulia will do what is necessary to retain ‘’

Ahh, what has she done so far. Dumped choc on poro.

Run naked through the streets cussing and swearing,

Helping her countrymen to tell putlerturd and his little

green men and little writing men to fu—ff.

Probably the last that bothers you, tc, etc...


40 posted on 05/28/2014 8:10:41 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: hubel458
Get a load of THIS gun....what the heck is it?
41 posted on 05/28/2014 8:35:11 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Get a load of THIS gun....what the heck is it?

"It shoots through schools."

42 posted on 05/28/2014 8:36:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: hubel458

Well she was greatly responsible for the Orange Revolution...and were it not for her being arrested would have certainly had a huge part in the Maidan.

Currently Maidan is refusing to abide by their New Mayors request they leave the Square. Some are saying Porsh won’t last. They’ve been collecting wood piles for the “Next Maidan”
and Yulia said she she would start a new one if not elected as Pres.....so we shall see.


43 posted on 05/28/2014 8:40:31 PM PDT by caww
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To: dfwgator

It also shoots through Hospitals....


44 posted on 05/28/2014 8:41:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: dfwgator

Just to be precise...I think those are Ukraine Speratists in the photo.....It was Keiv Army which used heavy artillery on the school and hospital.


45 posted on 05/28/2014 8:43:04 PM PDT by caww
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To: dfwgator

It is a PTRS-41....THE Simonov Anti Tank Rifle..

Autoloading..14.5mm Russian cartridge.. A .585” cartridge

Be perfect for my 585 Hubel Express Cartridge...

If you google 585HE you see what I do most of the
time, when not on here arguing with Ukraine bashers..Ed


46 posted on 05/28/2014 9:22:04 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: caww

Why should they go home, before putlers tent city
on the border goes home,

Why before the little green men go home and Why before
the gangsters they dug up in the Donbas move to russia.

Why before the little writing men, quite trashing UKR.

make it into tourist setup, sell flags, momentos , etc..


47 posted on 05/28/2014 9:45:35 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: caww

I read about Ukraine’s gold quite some time ago. Who is in control of it?


48 posted on 05/28/2014 10:10:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

UKR had 50 billions worth, under yanu-assho 20 billion
went missing(gone to russia along with yanu).

So when interim gov took over, and russians got
on their tantrum, interim gov sent rest to US
for safe keeping. And if needed will probably pay back
aid money with some of it. That is why most don’t
worry about aid to UKR .


49 posted on 05/28/2014 10:36:28 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: McGruff

I had hopes for Poroshenko but attacking Donetsk on his first day in office tells me nothing has changed and this won’t be resolved anytime soon.


The lawfully elected leader of Ukraine moves Ukrainian forces into eastern UKRAINE to take back UKRAINIAN territory from an invading force of Russians, muslim mercenaries and terrorists and you call that “attacking”?

You never had “hopes for Poroshenko, unless you are referring to his defeat.


50 posted on 05/29/2014 7:46:42 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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