Russia refuses to release Chechen film

Ukraine News One ^ | 28 may 2014 | Ukraine News One

[WhiskeyX]

In another indication of Kremlin’s uneasiness over its Soviet past, Russia has banned the release of a film titled ‘Ordered to Forget’ which depicts the deportation of Chechens on Stalin’s orders during World War II. Russian authorities have called it ‘historically false’ and have claimed that it will ‘promote ethnic hatred’.

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The film details the forcible deportation of nearly half a million Chechens and the Ingush people from their ancestral lands in the North Caucuses in 1944. The Soviet leader Josef Stalin accused them of being disloyal to the state, and deported them en masse in cattle cars to Siberia and Kazakhstan.

[TigersEye]

Russia can’t handle the truth!

[apillar]

Many of Russians I know, while they are quick to say that they would never want to go back to the Soviet days, also seem to have developed a romanticized view of the “glory” of the old days, such as being the first in space, and are all too quick to forget all the terrible things that went along with it. They also will try to rationalize and argue tooth and nail that any atrocities that happened in the Soviet Union were no worse than things going on in the United States, like segregation, the internment of Japanese during WWII, and Vietnam. I find it hard to fathom, but you got to also remember than any Russian over 30 spent a good portion of their childhood being indoctrinated in Soviet schools, and some of that is bound to have stuck with them.

[Argus]

They also believe that Russians invented baseball, electric lights, and the telephone.

[fella]

“The Great ObamaNation” is madder than Hell that cattle aren’t shipped by rail in this nation anymore.

[BBell]

Obama can barrow some cattle cars from the Marine Corps. I've rode in them many a time.

[McGruff]

I’d forgotten about that pleasure. Better than humping that distance though.

[McGruff]

And now they are fighting along side Russians supposedly. Chechen fighters among ranks of rebel militants in Ukraine, self-appointed mayor says.

[dfwgator]

Guess it boils down to which side has the better Chechens.

[BBell]

I was in the Infantry. They used to pack us in so tight you had to stand, no room to sit. Same with the 5 tons except we could sit in them. Could not move though.

[caww]

In light of your post I would imagine many in our country also continue to have a “romanticized view of the glory days of old”...and too quick to forget all the terrible things that went along with it”.

Just as Americans now want to see our former selves...so too do Russians in their country want the pride and power they once knew, only this time under Putin rather than the USSR. There is a difference. Putin has galvanized the youth to believe in a NEW Russia...and it’s worked.

[caww]

Chechenians have been there for some time...just as Polish and other Baltic nations have been there fighting with the Kiev Gov. It’s all a proxy war because neither Russia nor the US will officially go to war over Ukraine...and Nato has limitations because Ukraine is not a Nato member.

This continues to be the face of war now...nothing official...just sending the willing in to fight.

[caww]

Remember in Iraq how often the varied tribes switched sides pending on who was winning at any given moment? Same could be said for some in Ukraine and the foreign fighters involved now.

Just as their are police and Keiv army members switching sides....what a mess!

[McGruff]

I just had a flashback to December 1971 and my first day of Basic training being herded into one of those cattle cars in the middle of the night headed for the slaughter. LOL

[Trailerpark Badass]

Several of the Russians who used to post here, when I pointed out the misery inflicted on so much of humanity by Bolshevism, always used to blame it on "the Georgians," because of Stalin, I guess.

It was very strange.

[wetphoenix]

~They also believe that Russians invented baseball, electric lights, and the telephone.~

Bull. As a Russian older than 30, who went through a public school, I assure that none of the above were taught to me there.
There is also an old game known as ‘lapta’ which is very similar to baseball, though. I think was around a few centuries ago, certainly earlier than baseball.

[wetphoenix]

~Several of the Russians who used to post here, when I pointed out the misery inflicted on so much of humanity by Bolshevism, always used to blame it on “the Georgians,” because of Stalin, I guess.~

They try to be in line with some ‘conservatives’ here blaming Russians as ethnicity for every evil thing in the world, including US getting socialist.
Of course, Russian Bolshevism is a Russian problem but you can’t ignore the fact that it was initially perpetrated mostly by minorities, influenced by German intelligence.
Also ‘Ukrainian genocide by the Russians’ aka Holodomor was nothing but a result of Stalin’s policy to destroy rural communities all around the Soviet Union and herd people to the cities. Every ethnicity in the Soviet Union and ethnic Russians in the first place were victims, it was mostly perpetrated by local communists in place (predomimately Ukrainian in case of Ukraine) yet it is ‘genocide by the Russians’.

[Argus]

No offense, these were all exhibits in a Russian museum in San Francisco I visited years ago.