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Haley Barbour: Ideological purity is the ‘enemy of victory’
The swashington Times ^ | 5-30-2014 | Seth McLaughlin

Posted on 05/30/2014 3:13:15 PM PDT by INVAR

NEW ORLEANS — Former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour warned Friday that ideological purity is the “enemy of victory” and that the GOP must broaden the Republican coalition to win elections and to enact conservative policies that will change the direction of the nation.

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Mark Levin going berserk on this one. New Rulign Class GOP-e bumper sticker.

I say they can suck it and try to win without Conservatives.

Of course this is why they want Amnesty.

1 posted on 05/30/2014 3:13:15 PM PDT by INVAR
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To: INVAR

Sounds like something Karl Tokyo Rove would say.


2 posted on 05/30/2014 3:14:26 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: INVAR

No amnesty!!


3 posted on 05/30/2014 3:14:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: INVAR

4 posted on 05/30/2014 3:15:22 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: INVAR

The perfect is the enemy of the good is an aphorism or proverb meaning that insisting on perfection often results in no improvement at all. The phrase is commonly attributed to Voltaire whose moral poem, La Bégueule, starts[1]

“Dans ses écrits, un sage Italien
Dit que le mieux est l’ennemi du bien.

(In his writings, a wise Italian
says that the best is the enemy of the good)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_is_the_enemy_of_good

You didn’t build that!


5 posted on 05/30/2014 3:16:00 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: INVAR

One after another of them have been bought and paid for. It’s not fashionable to work for your constituents anymore. They’d rather rake in the millions from their corporate masters.

They’re just liberals who don’t like paying taxes.


6 posted on 05/30/2014 3:16:41 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: INVAR
Shamnesty and LGBT are losers.

Big grubment losers can ESAD.

7 posted on 05/30/2014 3:16:44 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: INVAR
Republicans lose when they run liberal candidates at the national level.

I hope to see the day when running as a liberal republican is the political kiss of death.

I'm doing everything I can to make that happen.

/johnny

8 posted on 05/30/2014 3:17:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TurboZamboni

#WAR


9 posted on 05/30/2014 3:17:09 PM PDT by gwgn02
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To: headstamp 2

They’re just liberals who don’t like paying taxes.

Ding ding ding ding! We have a winner.

10 posted on 05/30/2014 3:18:32 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: INVAR

Dear Haley: Bite me.


11 posted on 05/30/2014 3:19:23 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: INVAR

What Barbour is admitting to all, is that principles suck - and that we must compromise our principles with the Left to win elections and those Conservatives that stick to principles and refuse to surrender them, are an “enemy” to GOP victory.

So be it.

Barbour just reiterated the war that Mitch McConnell declared, just in different language.


12 posted on 05/30/2014 3:19:39 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

Who’s “victory” is he talking about? Certainly not mine!


13 posted on 05/30/2014 3:19:57 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: INVAR

Sorry, you lying #*$&@.

We’ve heard this crap before, many times, and every time the GOP moves further to the left and does not implement anything of a Conservative nature.

Get lost you Liar Haley!


14 posted on 05/30/2014 3:19:59 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: INVAR

What about Americans who are not Republicans?

And don’t care whether Republicans are elected — when the Republicans are only a Democrat Party Lite.


15 posted on 05/30/2014 3:20:17 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: INVAR

Haley is one of those “malaise Republicans”


16 posted on 05/30/2014 3:21:21 PM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: INVAR
Barbour, as well as the rest of the GOP establishment, has no clue as to how to advance the conservative agenda.

Instead, what we have here is immediate capitulation, groveling and apologizing for being conservative, and accepting the Left's narrative and premise.

You lay out conservative principles, people will wise up and see that you are correct and join your side. This is why the Left always whine that Republicans are "too far to the right"...if true then why not just let Republicans be the fire-breathing conservatives that they are perceived to be and they'll lose, right?

No, because the Left KNOWS that conservatism works and is a winner everywhere it's been tried. Hence the narrative that the GOP needs to "move to the middle," or some other bovine feces.

It's not ideological purity at all, it's called beliefs and principles and conservative principles simply aren't up for debate or to be compromised with.

17 posted on 05/30/2014 3:21:51 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: INVAR

Never liked Barbour, but there were some here who were pushing him as a conservative candidate back in 2007 or 2008.


18 posted on 05/30/2014 3:22:03 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Lil Flower; Din Maker; Malichi; WXRGina; duffee; onyx; DrewsMum; Tupelo; mstar; jdirt; ...

Barbour ping.


19 posted on 05/30/2014 3:23:07 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: VRWC For Truth

No damned amnesty and 1 man with 1 woman = marriage. That’s it. And stop the baby killing. Other than those three absolutes— let’s talk Haley. By the way you are way too fat.


20 posted on 05/30/2014 3:23:22 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: INVAR

Ideological purity isn’t the enemy of victory.

It’s more like a feature of immaturity.


21 posted on 05/30/2014 3:24:20 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: INVAR

So the GOPe will start supporting conservatives in order to win elections?


22 posted on 05/30/2014 3:25:40 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: INVAR

Purity?!?!?!?

Heck, right now I’d settle for mediocre.


23 posted on 05/30/2014 3:26:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: INVAR
Sure a Conservative or a Constitutionalist might vote for a candidate with whom he is in .... O say .... 85% agreement, especially if the candidate sweeps a primary.

The trouble with Haley B and Johnny Boehner is that their numbers are down to about 60% for Haley, and 40% with Johnny.

The Establishment GOP's idea of "compromise" = "surrender."

The RINO's have moved too far to the left in their lucrative compromise with the other party. They claim that they are in "the middle of the road," when it would be far more accurate to say that they are on the wrong side of the double yellow line.

What worries me the most is a guy like Mitch McConnell. Sure he's been "scared straight" for his primary. But if he retakes his seat, this is just the kind of SOB that is going to open up his compromise shop with the Left and just keep his business going as usual.

Furthermore, why should the voters elect a left-leaning double-dealin' SOB like him, when for the same vote they can get a real Democrat?

24 posted on 05/30/2014 3:26:51 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Vote for a gay African Marxist for POTUS? Sure. What could go wrong?)
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To: INVAR

The enemy of establishment RINO victory perhaps. Fade into the night, Barbour. You’re as bad as Brewer.


25 posted on 05/30/2014 3:29:00 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Doesn’t he have some convicts to pardon?


26 posted on 05/30/2014 3:29:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: INVAR

Politics is the art of the possible. Haley is correct about that....BUT he is dead wrong when it comes to the need for a more ideologically pure and moral base upon which to begin that “possibility” making.

Primary fights are all ABOUT defining the party. If not there, where? If not then, when?

As the Democrat party moves deeper and deeper into the abyss of national socialism, we conservatives must move our party back to FREE MARKETS, JUDEO-CHRISTIAN ETHICS, and STRENGTH.


27 posted on 05/30/2014 3:31:11 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: INVAR

0bama GOPers are the enemy of the victory of Liberty.


28 posted on 05/30/2014 3:32:12 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: INVAR

Your party sucks, Haley, deal with it.


29 posted on 05/30/2014 3:33:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: INVAR

Succumb to Cultural Marxism in order to win elections, no thanks. People who embrace moderates and democrats are just Cthulhu admirers.


30 posted on 05/30/2014 3:34:38 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: INVAR

Haley is pretty good for a Mississippian at spouting hot air. Most of them though are quiet, meek, and status-quo oriented, which is what Haley really prefers in fellow citizens.


31 posted on 05/30/2014 3:36:43 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: INVAR

Yep. They are foolish enough to believe they can replace conservative votes, with newly minted US citizens.

Hillary should write each one of the GOPe’s a thank you note,
as she will carry all 50 states, as a result.


32 posted on 05/30/2014 3:36:54 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: INVAR

Am I the ONLY ONE WHO REMEMBERS???

The last time we ran a real conservative, we only won 49 states.


33 posted on 05/30/2014 3:40:34 PM PDT by Flintlock (islam is a LIE; mowhommod was a MOLESTER CRIMINAL; sharia is POISON.)
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To: headstamp 2

I finally figured out that if I wanted to influence Senator Cochran on a particular vote instead of calling his office I should give the Barbour lobbying firm a half mil and have them contact him.


34 posted on 05/30/2014 3:42:27 PM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: INVAR

I don’t demand purity. I do, however, demand that a candidate support the Second Amendment, the rule of law, and progress toward a constitutional government constrained by the enumerated powers. If we’re just debating how quickly to complete the transition to a socialist dictatorship in which FedGov has absolute power, I’m not interested in playing.

Limited government is the foundation of freedom. The rule of law (which includes refusing to reward criminals who enter our country illegally) is necessary to maintain limited government. As for the Second Amendment, it is necessary to the security of a free State. I’m flexible on many issues, but not on those fundamentals.


35 posted on 05/30/2014 3:43:31 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Flintlock
The last time we ran a real conservative, we only won 49 states.

That guy was a RINO who PASSED and SIGNED amnesty.

36 posted on 05/30/2014 3:54:13 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: Pollster1

Ahhh, but if you dare challenge the Ruling Class Establishment’s candidate, who goes to war on Conservatives but treats Marxists with kid gloves, admiration and compromise - then YOU will be declare to be a ‘purist’ who is an ‘enemy’ of victory which by extension makes you an enemy of the GOP.

Now put the declaration of war that McConnell made upon Conservatives and does ANYONE get the picture yet?

Conservatism has NO PLACE in the GOP. It is not welcome there.

But if you dare not hold your nose and vote for the Ruling Class stooge foisted upon the base, you will be declared the reason why the GOP continues to lose.


37 posted on 05/30/2014 3:59:48 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Barbour, as well as the rest of the GOP establishment, has no clue as to how to advance the conservative agenda. Instead, what we have here is immediate capitulation, groveling and apologizing for being conservative, and accepting the Left's narrative and premise.

You lay out conservative principles, people will wise up and see that you are correct and join your side. This is why the Left always whine that Republicans are "too far to the right"...if true then why not just let Republicans be the fire-breathing conservatives that they are perceived to be and they'll lose, right?

No, because the Left KNOWS that conservatism works and is a winner everywhere it's been tried. Hence the narrative that the GOP needs to "move to the middle," or some other bovine feces.

It's not ideological purity at all, it's called beliefs and principles and conservative principles simply aren't up for debate or to be compromised with.

Exactly!

38 posted on 05/30/2014 4:02:30 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: AmusedBystander

In his defense - everyone promised it would be the only time it ever happened.

I didn’t agree with Reagan at the time and I was very young. That and some of his judges were terrible decisions.

But I would be happy to vote for Reagan again. He wasn’t perfect but he was pretty good.


39 posted on 05/30/2014 4:06:02 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: INVAR
GOP must broaden the Republican coalition to win elections

No. The GOP needs to stand for something.

To ask most Republicans what the GOP stands for would elicit a response similar to that of Hillary Clinton's accomplishments.

Yeah, they would give the smaller government, lower taxes, small business support, yada yada yada. They have not 'stood' on those since Reagan.


40 posted on 05/30/2014 4:08:20 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: QuisCustodiet1776
He wasn’t perfect but he was pretty good.

Absolutely, I voted for him four times for President.

41 posted on 05/30/2014 4:08:54 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: INVAR

Haley Barbour is the enemy of common sense.


42 posted on 05/30/2014 4:10:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: INVAR

Honestly, this type of reasoning makes me furious.


43 posted on 05/30/2014 4:13:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: trisham

Yep, had the same reservations.

I used to like the guy until I learned more about him.

His own mouth was my source.


44 posted on 05/30/2014 4:13:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: INVAR

Yeah, here we go with the old McCain/Romney “The perfect is the enemy of the good,” get your a**es in line, suck it up & vote for a Republicrat.


45 posted on 05/30/2014 4:21:03 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yes, I felt much the same.


46 posted on 05/30/2014 4:21:59 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: INVAR

“Former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour warned Friday that ideological purity is the “enemy of victory””

Translation: “Quit trying to reduce the size of government. How do you expect guys like me to cut deals if you turn the money spigot off?”


47 posted on 05/30/2014 4:26:30 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: INVAR

Victory without principles is the enemy of all Americans.


48 posted on 05/30/2014 4:30:29 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: SharpRightTurn

WAIT. If you cannot win with ideological purity, why do the rats win with it?


49 posted on 05/30/2014 4:31:54 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: INVAR
Haley Barbour: Ideological purity is the ‘enemy of delusive victory’

fixed it.
50 posted on 05/30/2014 4:37:24 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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