[AnotherUnixGeek]

ooooooooooooooookay

whatever you say kemosabe

As I mentioned, I've been to many other parts of this country - often. Based on what you've said, you've never even been to the Bay Area and therefore have no personal info about this subject at all. Why not fly out and spend a few days looking around - hotels and rental cars are no worse than anywhere else. Drive around and make your own observations - not just San Francisco, which is nothing like most of the Bay Area, but the East Bay, the Peninsula and the South Bay/Silicon Valley.

Always better to speak based on personal experience, as I have, rather than make a reply like yours based on what you heard someone once say.

[yldstrk]

uh no I have been to the Bay Area numerous times and all over up to Medocino, Napa, Mount Shasta. You are misled if you say the place isn’t run down, full of communists, attracts the homeless because of the weather and so on and so forth.