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Southern Baptists Face a Moment of Decision on Gay Marriage
Christian News ^ | June 2, 2014 | Al Mohler

Posted on 06/06/2014 6:39:56 AM PDT by robowombat

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To: Bulwyf

Because he WANTS to support it so he just skips those parts.


21 posted on 06/06/2014 7:10:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: robowombat

“Dad, I’m a bank robber.”

“Dad, I’m an adulterer.”

“Dad, I’m a murderer.”

Would any of those confessions cause the man to stop believing in the traditional teachings regarding such sins? Nope. Yet he has decided to disregard the Bible and delude himself that queerness is just a form of “love.”


22 posted on 06/06/2014 7:11:40 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: kidd
Agree. This convention will be more church discipline than anything else. They will get the issue out in the open, vote (to find the pastor and congregants guilty), and excommunicate them.

This will be a message for other like-minded religious leaders (I will not call them pastors because they are not).

23 posted on 06/06/2014 7:12:01 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Bulwyf

The fact that this is even up for discussion, shows how much things have changed in this culture.

We are well on the way to normalizing homosexual marriage in our civil laws.

So now, pressures will be brought to bear to allow homosexual marriage in churches.

It’s predictable that splits within denominations will happen over this issue. As I understand it, in the Southern Baptist Convention, individual churches decided to join, or decide to leave. Unfortunately some congregations will try to prove how liberal they are, and leave the convention.

It puts more pressure on all of us as individuals as well, to make sure our local churches retain the traditional doctrines on marriage and family . We as individuals may find that we have to leave our long time church homes, if our churches decide to normalize homosexuality. We may all have to make such a choice.


24 posted on 06/06/2014 7:12:08 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: Sybeck1

The SBC openly chose sin when it refused to speak clearly on the sin of sending children to government schools. It is also inching to the left on amnesty, the environment, feminism, and, even more so, on “diversity”. I belong to an SBC church, but I will be out the door as soon as my older sons leave for college.


25 posted on 06/06/2014 7:12:26 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: snoringbear

The Baptist Church embraces the apostasy of “Once Saved Always Saved” so this isn’t a great stretch. It carries a type of libertarianism alongside of it.


26 posted on 06/06/2014 7:12:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: snoringbear

You’ve stated the problem perfectly.

These kids grew up watching ‘Will and Grace’. And getting all the anti-bullying (ie, pro gay) mantra delivered every single day in what was probably public school.

It’s a fait accompli. It’s just a matter of time. Within a generation they’ll be performing the wedding ceremonies in church. All the old people who would have objected will be long dead. The young will see nothing wrong with any of it.


27 posted on 06/06/2014 7:13:25 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yes, I’ve thought about that, but the day my church stops adhering to biblical teaching, is the day I walk. I might end up in a basement with a handful of other believers, but I will NOT conform, I will stick with the word of God, at any cost.


28 posted on 06/06/2014 7:15:35 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: robowombat

ping


29 posted on 06/06/2014 7:16:44 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

The visible church can, has and will fall away. True believers never will. This is a winnowing, a separation of the wheat from the chaff. Sadly, there appears to be a lot more chaff than wheat nowadays. But the chaff won’t have a good end.

Luk 3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Luk 3:17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.


30 posted on 06/06/2014 7:17:13 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: snoringbear

It isn’t the “friends”, because, media messaging to the contrary, sodomites are few and far between. The real problem is the government schools and media that indoctrinate the children endlessly on the sodomite lifestyle. The SBC sowed the seeds of its own destruction when it embraced government schools. The current leadership bears responsibility for that, as well as prior leaders.

The SBC is dead. Its alleged orthodoxy doesn’t translate into practice because they have made an idol of keeping the membership numbers up. I know because I know some of the leaders.


31 posted on 06/06/2014 7:17:29 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: robowombat

Al Moehler has rubbed me the wrong way in the past, but he is spot on in this message. There is no compromising “third way” on this issue.


32 posted on 06/06/2014 7:19:50 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: AppyPappy

The only problem is that it’s true.

“Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:”


33 posted on 06/06/2014 7:22:12 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: Bulwyf

Agreed. Well said.


34 posted on 06/06/2014 7:22:13 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: robowombat
We will choose to remain the body of Christ and not cast judgement...In this issue we are able to not cast judgement in our disagreement.”

Ah, yes. Mustn't judge...the very worst sin of all sins on earth, it seems. Perhaps now, the only sin.

35 posted on 06/06/2014 7:23:21 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.-Sowell)
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To: fwdude

Very true. There’s no way to have a 3rd way or a compromise. Either a church will allow homosexual marriage or it won’t. Either they will allow and affirm open homosexuality, or they will hold to traditional teachings that such behavior is sinful. Choices will have to be made.

It’s quite possible that years from now, that most mainstream denominations will have split into two groups over this issue.


36 posted on 06/06/2014 7:24:49 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: 2nd Amendment

Assuming you’re a believer.


37 posted on 06/06/2014 7:25:05 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: kidd
There is no way that Southern Baptists will condone this.

Of course they won't openly condone this. That is not the usual pattern of apostasy. The tactic of Satan is to subtly, in tiny increments, work questioning apostasy as "honesty" into a group, little by little.

Several years ago during their annual convention, the President of the SBC agreed to meet with a group of some of the most radical homosexual activists who were attempting to change the policy of the SBC toward homosexuality. Such a meeting would NEVER have occurred even 10 years ago. That such a meeting even occurred, even though the president wouldn't budge on the stated position of the denomination, was seen as an enormous victory by the sodomite lobby.

And in a sense, they were right. They obtained a place at the table, from which they derive incredible leverage.

38 posted on 06/06/2014 7:26:09 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Christenodom has nothing to do with this, I believe.

In the name of Christendom it is the enemy in the gate who distorts, directs and destroys. Christendom has many claiments but increasingly fewer adherents, which marks the glaring difference.

Also, Christians knew this was coming and much more, until as Jesus said of his second coming, “will there be found any faith on earth”.


39 posted on 06/06/2014 7:27:04 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Arm_Bears

And you can almost see the wave coming from the State of CA...meaning loss of tax exempt status for Bible believing churches.

My faith doesn’t depend on the tax exemmpt status of my church...but I can see how the government can make things more difficult. How long until the Bible is declared hate speech ? Not long, I’m sure.


40 posted on 06/06/2014 7:27:28 AM PDT by rights with responsibilities
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