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5 Lessons In The Heroic Act That Stopped The Seattle School Shooter
Townhall.com ^ | June 8, 2014 | Doug Giles

Posted on 06/08/2014 7:24:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/08/2014 7:24:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Jon Meis, under zero-tolerance rules, will now be expelled from school for possession of pepper spray.

/s

(hope not)


2 posted on 06/08/2014 7:30:55 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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YES!


3 posted on 06/08/2014 7:34:37 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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My daughter shared an Internet thread showing that the Internet has responded and every item on his marriage registry Target and Crate and barrel for him and his fiance has been purchased. Seems he is getting married in two weeks. Reports indicate a crowd sourcing effort is active to fund their honeymoon is well underway.

Posting from mobile. Excuse typos.


4 posted on 06/08/2014 7:35:47 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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He will be arrested for not “sheltering in place”.


5 posted on 06/08/2014 7:36:40 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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Colleges now have “hall monitors”???


6 posted on 06/08/2014 7:41:25 AM PDT by Bob
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Colleges now have “hall monitors”???

Based on this event, I guess they are needed.

7 posted on 06/08/2014 7:48:52 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Kaslin
Two reasons why the media has dropped this story like a hot potato:

(1) The assailant was Hispanic
(2) The victims were White religious Christians

8 posted on 06/08/2014 7:54:11 AM PDT by AuditTheFed
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SPU is a Christian university. This fine young man is an example of the kind of student they produce.


9 posted on 06/08/2014 7:56:26 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Pain is inevitable. Misery is optional.)
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There's your first responder.
10 posted on 06/08/2014 8:03:22 AM PDT by pa_dweller (Extremist tea-party-driven hostage-taking legislative arsonist without a life)
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If for some reason you don’t have a deterrent on you, get creative and use what you have at hand...

Now there's a topic that is worth discussing in detail. There are lots of things that one would not normally think of as being defensive measures or highly effective weapons......

11 posted on 06/08/2014 8:07:55 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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They ran with it for a while claiming that all you need for defense is a can of pepper spray against a bad guy with a gun.

Then came the Georgia shootout in which a deputy shot a bad guy with a gun.


12 posted on 06/08/2014 8:17:01 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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Yep.

I would have punched that guy’s time card so many times he’d require facial reconstructive surgery.

Hope he gets life at a minimum or has one last electrifying moment.


13 posted on 06/08/2014 8:55:29 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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3. Have a weapon at your disposal

When I met my wife I had already served in the military and had been a LEO and Corrections Officer. In a discussion of what to do if someone got in the house when I was not there I showed her that every room possessed a variety of effective weapons with which to dispatch some scum bag.
Don’t get me wrong we have weapons but you should always know your surroundings and what might be used if needed.


14 posted on 06/08/2014 8:56:17 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American - Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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LOL!

Congratulations, though I’m not sure what this has to with the subject.


15 posted on 06/08/2014 8:56:45 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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"Two reasons why the media has dropped this story like a hot potato"

The media have tried to put a fig leaf over it, but Meis (the hero) listed "Firearms" as one of his "Likes" on his Facebook page. Listed under that category were the NRA, Remington, and several other gun and outdoor equipment manufacturers. He is also involved in a paintball-type hobby, and is strongly pro-2nd Amendment, and apparently a hunter.

The original article about him in the Seattle Times described him as "outdoorsy," and a later article finally conceded that he was "knowledgeable about guns," as if he had read about them in a magazine or something. The "Firearms" section on his Facebook page was never mentioned. (Can you imagine it not being mentioned if it had been on the SHOOTER's Facebook page? Of course not - that fact would have virtually defined the shooter.)
16 posted on 06/08/2014 9:08:38 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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The media is now going to argue that you don’t need a gun to defend yourself or stop a mass murderer — all you need is a can of pepper spray.


17 posted on 06/08/2014 9:09:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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I sat next to a guy on the subway once who told me how he could kill somebody with a ball point pen if attacked. People here sometimes confuse the gun with the willingness and courage to act quickly and counterattack.

There is no weapon in the world that will help you unless you are swift enough and fearless enough to simply attack your attacker. Attitude is all, and we’ve raised a very disempowered generation...except for people like this guy.


18 posted on 06/08/2014 9:52:15 AM PDT by livius
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It’s funny but true - that’s one of the things I get a kick out of watching Jason Statham or the Bourne movies - creativity in offensive attacks. Yes, I know they’re just movies but the take-away point I thought was that the quick decisive decision is the major plus in the matter.


19 posted on 06/08/2014 10:03:45 AM PDT by time4good
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I agree. Even something like screaming loudly can help, if for example you’re talking about a little old lady who probably couldn’t resist very effectively. But if she got mad right off, I bet she’d at least disrupt things.

The cops always tell people to go along with it, etc. That might have made sense back in the days when murder was a capital crime and the average petty criminal really wasn’t going to off you. And when the mentally ill were in mental hospitals and out of circulation.

But now citizens have to be much more proactive in their defense, and they don’t have to be armed to do it. Or if they are armed, they have to know that it’s not just symbolic and they may have to use that weapon.


20 posted on 06/08/2014 10:15:17 AM PDT by livius
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