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Bergdahl platoon medic says captured soldier deserted his post, 'not a hero'
Fox News ^ | June 8, 2014

Posted on 06/08/2014 9:40:29 AM PDT by jazusamo

A member of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s platoon in Afghanistan said Sunday the former Taliban prisoner deserted his post before being captured and fired back against Obama administration arguments that only Bergdahl knows exactly what happened.

“After Bowe Bergdahl purposely and willfully walked away, every single mission was titled toward finding him,” platoon medic Joshua Cornelison told “Fox News Sunday.” “We were there. This isn’t some second- or third-hand account.”

Cornelison’s comments come several days after a State Department spokeswoman told Fox News that Bergdahl is “probably the person who knows best what happened on that night” and dismissed published accounts from platoon mates about the events surrounding Bergdahl’s June 5, 2009, disappearance and capture.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bergdahl; cornelison; desertion; obama
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Joshua Cornelison is right on the mark, they were there and none of the State Department nor White House nay saying spokespeople were.
1 posted on 06/08/2014 9:40:29 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

He is just another psychopath. /sarc


2 posted on 06/08/2014 9:43:03 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Global Warming is caused by illegal immigrants!)
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To: jazusamo

Oh, my! That kind of wrecks the Obama talking points.


3 posted on 06/08/2014 9:45:02 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: jazusamo

I wonder where the NYTs and others are getting all the information they are using to deflect the criticism.

Is the White House leaking classified reports?

Are they relying on anonymous sources?

Are they just pulling stuff out of their butts?


4 posted on 06/08/2014 9:46:22 AM PDT by digger48
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To: jazusamo

“....a State Department spokeswoman told Fox News that Bergdahl is “probably the person who knows best what happened on that night....”

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It is like a criminal telling judge and jury that he is the only person who knows all about the crime he is charged with.


5 posted on 06/08/2014 9:49:35 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: digger48

I’d venture a guess it’s all of the above.

0bama stepped in it big time and they know, the big lie seems to be they had to do it without notifying Congress because of the urgency of Bergdahl’s health.


6 posted on 06/08/2014 9:49:37 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
One thing that occurred to me is...could these various platoon mates who've come out publicly be subject to discipline under the UCMJ? I know it depends on their current status but if,for example,they've been transferred to the Individual Reserves could they be activated and punished?
7 posted on 06/08/2014 9:51:48 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: digger48

>I wonder where the NYTs and others are getting all the information they are using to deflect the criticism.<

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Pulled it out their stinky body cavity.


8 posted on 06/08/2014 9:52:39 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

Exactly, and if he deserted like the evidence points to, it doesn’t speak well for his character.


9 posted on 06/08/2014 9:53:21 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: digger48
Is the White House leaking classified reports?

You can count on it.

Are they relying on anonymous sources?

Ditto

Are they just pulling stuff out of their butts?

Possibly

10 posted on 06/08/2014 9:54:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I honestly don’t know but now that Bergdahl is in our hands I believe there’d be much egg on the face of anyone trying to discipline these soldiers.


11 posted on 06/08/2014 9:57:28 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Bergdahl’s unit sent out a patrol to look for him when they realized he wasn’t where he was supposed to be. Members of this unit stated on The Kelly Files that they hadn’t gone more than ten feet when two young Afghan boys told them that they had seen an American crawling through the weeds. Now, a guy out for a nature walk isn’t crawling through the weeds. A mentally unfit person wandering around isn’t crawling through the weeds. A guy trying to escape detection by the American guards HE KNOWS ARE THERE crawls through the weeds. Bergdahl was deserting.


12 posted on 06/08/2014 10:00:17 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

I saw that segment of The Kelly Files and believed every word they said. I agree.


13 posted on 06/08/2014 10:05:02 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: blueunicorn6
A mentally unfit person wandering around isn’t crawling through the weeds. A guy trying to escape detection by the American guards HE KNOWS ARE THERE crawls through the weeds. Bergdahl was deserting.

I have trouble attaching to someone with a sound mind a motive to escape the protection of the US military in the middle of an Afghanistan war zone. Desertion sounds like a pretty crazy idea to me. I'm betting on some serious mental problems in this case.

14 posted on 06/08/2014 10:05:59 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: blueunicorn6

“We leave no one behind on the battlefield!”

For 5 years? Which means they were waiting for something big to happen so they could use this as a new front page story.

We need to ignore this, let the military do their thing and get back to Obamacare, the VA and IRS scandals. Because after this there will be another and another scandal which will keep America preoccupied while EPA regs are implemented and illegals gain access to our crucial resources.


15 posted on 06/08/2014 10:06:02 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: jazusamo

Oh, another “psycho” has piped up?


16 posted on 06/08/2014 10:06:07 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: jazusamo

Does anyone remember the PanAm Flight 103 Muzzie terrorist that was released due to health problems?

Release of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Release_of_Abdelbaset_al-Megrahi

Seems like Obama and his cronies are using the same excuse to free Bergdahl.


17 posted on 06/08/2014 10:06:40 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: jazusamo
they were there and none of the State Department nor White House nay saying spokespeople were.


18 posted on 06/08/2014 10:07:22 AM PDT by bgill
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To: digger48

What has The Times been saying?


19 posted on 06/08/2014 10:08:24 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: jazusamo
I honestly don’t know but now that Bergdahl is in our hands I believe there’d be much egg on the face of anyone trying to discipline these soldiers.

Do you really think that Osama Obama cares about "egg"? His face has been coated with dried rat droppings since he entered the Illinois Senate and it clearly doesn't bother him at all.IMO any ambitious Colonel or General would be helping his career enormously by coming down on these guys like a ton of bricks.

20 posted on 06/08/2014 10:09:08 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Good point and not a surprise with 0bama running the show.


21 posted on 06/08/2014 10:11:58 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: miss marmelstein

They had 2 articles supporting Bergdahl and trashing his unit yesterday.

They are claiming to have information from the hospital where the POS is being treated. Someone is leaking, or they are making it up as they go

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3165037/posts

As Bowe Bergdahl Heals, Details Emerge of His Captivity

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3165026/posts

Bergdahl Was In Unit Known For Its Troubles (Here come the smears)


22 posted on 06/08/2014 10:15:53 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Gay State Conservative

True but that ambitious Colonel or General only has a couple years left to kiss 0bama’s rear. I believe contrary to current belief that the majority of higher ranking officers still believe in duty and honor and they’ll remember the butt kissers.


23 posted on 06/08/2014 10:16:39 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: digger48

Thank you so much, digger.


24 posted on 06/08/2014 10:21:09 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: jazusamo

So the other men in his unit stayed, did their jobs, risked their lives and are all mentally unfit, but the one who sneaked away like a thief in the night is a hero?
That, ladies and gentlemen, is how the left sees everything, inside out, upside down and backward. Yes, the patients really are running the asylum.


25 posted on 06/08/2014 10:25:51 AM PDT by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: miss marmelstein

I see the Times is using anonymous quotes yet again. Whenever they don’t have any facts, information or people willing to go on the record, they get these “quotes.” The Times is shameless. The National Enquirer has more integrity.


26 posted on 06/08/2014 10:26:34 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: jazusamo
I was going to say two points but this will probably evolve into more.
First, how did Obama know that the traitor had medical issues. Did we exam him? Did the Taliban send his medical records to Obbie? Maybe they got his records off the Obamacare web site. And now all the reports that he is recovering health wise is just a cover for the medical lie.

Second we sent troops out repeatedly to locate him. We lost 6, 8 or 12 men in this fraudulent search for a traitor This is part of our philosophy of not leaving any man behind. Interesting that now the only ones telling the truth about this traitor are the enlisted men. Their officers have left their men behind, they do are cowards. They do not deserve our respect nor can they lead troops again. Time to drum them out of the service. Lastly we heard about the NDA, non disclosure agreement, that these troops signed. They are coerced and non binding . Did Obbie think real men would stand down to a piece of paper? These are men, the enlisted men. The rest of the cowards and traitors are such that.

27 posted on 06/08/2014 10:27:33 AM PDT by Kozy
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To: jazusamo
I believe contrary to current belief that the majority of higher ranking officers still believe in duty and honor and they’ll remember the butt kissers.

You could very well be correct.But if the "butt kisser" outranks you it doesn't matter much what you think of him.

28 posted on 06/08/2014 10:32:15 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’ve wondered that too. I think they can.

But here is the thing, could they punish all of them? And if they did, what (further) damage to military morale would ensue.

The way this is being handled is hurting overall military morale, and that a BFD (to quote Biden). I’m not sure the Obama admin, as clueless as they are, has considered the full ramifications of their belittling of Bergdahl’s fellow soldiers. He is basically calling them all liars and questioning their motivations.

That can’t be good for military morale as a whole.


29 posted on 06/08/2014 10:37:17 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Gay State Conservative

They could try, but so far, from what I’ve seen, the Soldiers who have come forward haven’t been speculating outside their knowledge. They “stayed in their lane,” as we say.


30 posted on 06/08/2014 10:39:55 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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They could try, but so far, from what I’ve seen, the Soldiers who have come forward haven’t been speculating outside their knowledge. They “stayed in their lane,” as we say.

I see you're a Captain while my stellar Army career (cough,cough) saw me rise to the lofty rank of SP5.A SP5 that never ran afoul of the UCMJ in fact.So you know far more about military justice than do I.However,couldn't a commander go after them on the grounds of a security breech or something like that?

31 posted on 06/08/2014 10:48:06 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: jazusamo; windcliff

Fort Sam bump....


32 posted on 06/08/2014 10:53:41 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Gay State Conservative

Commanders can only order people under their command. A commander can say, “No one talks to the press about this,” and, while dubious legally if only the known/unclassified facts are adhered to, the CO can get them for failure to follow a direct order. However, if these guys are out or even on IRR, I don’t see there being a problem unless they start venturing completely into the unknown (”Yes, Bergdahl betrayed us by giving Taliban fighters inside knowledge of our tactics”) or make accusations against leadership (”Our CO knew he was a problem but did nothing to reign him in”) or something along those lines. That’s why it was very smart of their medic to give the shoulder shrug to every question but the one he knew the answer to—Bergdahl definitely deserted. He was there, he knew that one firsthand.


33 posted on 06/08/2014 11:12:47 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Their officers are the deserters too. They deserter their men in this media battle. They and Bergdahl are cowards.


34 posted on 06/08/2014 11:16:20 AM PDT by Kozy
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To: jazusamo; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Bergdahl ping.


35 posted on 06/08/2014 11:17:05 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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I do give more weight to this testimony, for one reason.

It’s from the medic. You can BS your squad mates for a time. Gripe and grumble and hide the damned hurt, physical or mental. Sort of normal, isn’t it. Most medics are pretty good at cutting through the BS and seeing the problem, and they ain’t shy about calling you on it.


36 posted on 06/08/2014 11:29:10 AM PDT by EC1
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To: EC1
It’s from the medic.

Yes, the medic knows everyone in his unit well, probably better than most.

He was also among the six that appeared with Megyn Kelley on The Kelly Files and in my view wouldn't have if he thought any of the other five were not truthful.

37 posted on 06/08/2014 11:44:47 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Kozy

Perhaps you’ve noticed only those who are no longer actively serving have spoken up, enlisted and officer? Are they all cowards or just the officers? What exactly could they add to the conversation that hasn’t already been stated? He deserted. Asked and answered. That’s all they know for sure at this point.

You’re next in the long line of idiot FReepers who think that people whom you don’t know are cowards b/c they don’t torpedo their careers when you think they should. Just be quiet and watch the news some more.


38 posted on 06/08/2014 11:57:36 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: miss marmelstein
It is amazing that our soldiers who put their lives on the line to fight terrorism around the globe are the ones coming out and stating facts in public. The administration officials are the ones all quoted anonymously.

Looks like we are backing the right team.

39 posted on 06/08/2014 12:29:46 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

I have run into a number of other Vets from the Balkan wars who were not permitted to speak the truth either. i.e. The Saudi’s funding the islamists and their resulting massacres.


40 posted on 06/08/2014 12:41:26 PM PDT by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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To: justa-hairyape

I have run into a number of other Vets from the Balkan wars who were not permitted to speak the truth either. i.e. The Saudi’s funding the islamists and their resulting massacres.


41 posted on 06/08/2014 12:41:32 PM PDT by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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To: digger48

Army Pfc. Morris L. Walker, a Black soldier died because of Bergdahl defection.
No one in The Regime wants to talk about that and the a google search of his name and ABCBSNBC does not disclose his name, except in an August 2009 ABC list of current casualties. The ABCBSNBC press not only does OBAMA’s bidding they invent ways to carry it out.
ARMY PFC. MORRIS L. WALKER died for your sins BERGHAHL and OBAMA traded Walkers LOYALTY and VALOR for FIVE PIECES OF poop. Donna Brazile spit on WALKER’S grave this morning on CNN’s “State of the Union”. I guess if Obama had a son, HE WOULD NOT LOOK OR ACT LIKE WALKER!!


42 posted on 06/08/2014 1:07:25 PM PDT by BilLies (sharyl attkisson is alive and well HOORAY!!!!!)
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To: jazusamo

Exactly. You ALWAYS listen to the medic, the chaplain and your top Sarge. In the latter case, it’s usually what he doesn’t say, but still ....


43 posted on 06/08/2014 1:13:57 PM PDT by EC1
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To: 353FMG

I was thinking the local stockyard.


44 posted on 06/08/2014 1:20:00 PM PDT by monocle (ain)
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To: BilLies

Thank you for the name.

Names are important.


45 posted on 06/08/2014 1:25:03 PM PDT by EC1
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To: BilLies
No administration official or media figure cares about a young black man killed by the actions of Bergdahl. He's merely a scrambled egg. That's what is so evil and stupid about identity politics.
46 posted on 06/08/2014 1:34:32 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Yeah, it’d be nice to think that some young officers or SNCOs who are making a career of it would have the stones to back these former enlisted publicly, but it’s asking a Hell of a lot for very little tactical advantage.

These young men who are speaking out seem to have it covered pretty well. Throwing out a career just to say “Me too” doesn’t make sense, especially if they are even one step removed from what went down. Why self immolate like LtCol Lakin just to make some noise?

I think the fact that the administration hasn’t trotted out somebody still in uniform to contradict the former soldiers speaks volumes. I’m pretty sure if they had some SgtMaj or field grade Officer who was in that chain of command willing to call these guys a bunch of mutinous malingerers, they’d have a microphone and a big, bright stage set up pretty quick.


47 posted on 06/08/2014 2:08:44 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: jazusamo; Jet Jaguar; xzins
I fear that Chuck Hagel is going to order persecution of these guys. They robbed Obama of "his moment" and told the truth.
48 posted on 06/08/2014 2:52:07 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Future Snake Eater

Watch the news!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s the last thing I will do to get information.
Officers lead their troops, they do not desert them. These officers have. Cowards at best.


49 posted on 06/08/2014 3:58:23 PM PDT by Kozy
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To: SkyPilot; Jet Jaguar; jazusamo

I thought about that. Technically, they could be actionable due to the non-disclosure agreements they signed. It would depend on the wording, but my one time signing one, I remember it being a standard form that had a vague reference to the non-disclosure item then added. If they did the same, then it would have legalese that would make it binding.

The few references to it, it seemed I heard the platoon members saying they thought it only covered until he was out of danger, and if that’s the way it’s written, then they’re free and clear. If that’s just an assumption on their part, then I can actually see this stupid administration going after them.

Or, they could use their standard methodology and send the IRS or the BLM to torment them individually.


50 posted on 06/08/2014 3:58:36 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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