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To: Jack Hydrazine

3 000 kilometer = 1 864.113 576 7 mile
on one charge?......................


3 posted on 06/10/2014 6:48:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: Red Badger

1,875 miles on one charge is what they are claiming. They’ve demonstrated 1,125 miles which is close to four times the range of Tesla’s Model S.


10 posted on 06/10/2014 6:53:01 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Red Badger
It is not a charge. It is an irreversible electro-chemical reaction. I looked at these 20 years ago for communication facilities.

They may use air, but they still have a liquid electrolyte that is separated from the air by a fragile membrane. I don't think it would do well in a crash.

20 posted on 06/10/2014 6:56:57 AM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Red Badger

No, the aluminum battery is not rechargeable, it must be replaced after it is depleted.


21 posted on 06/10/2014 6:56:57 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Red Badger
on one charge?

On one and the only charge. Metal-air batteries are one-shot devices. I, personally, wouldn't want to deal with a battery replacement - neither after 1,000 miles, nor after 2,000 miles. As the article says, people are reluctant to buy vehicles that require frequent and expensive service. There was another company in Israel, Better Place. It is dead now. However a bunch of people bought electric cars that depend on Better Place's battery swapping stations. Now they have to charge them themselves - and it is not trivial.

Still, this development may end up being useful for EVs. But, as I said on many occasions, EVs should first be used in high mileage, small range applications - local delivery, taxicabs, business. Only there the lower cost of each mile can be quickly converted to real savings. A car for a common man has to be universal, long range, and easy to refill - it is the hardest target, outside of heavy trucks. Common man does not drive all that much, and there are good chances that the car will be scrapped because of old age before it crosses the threshold of savings.

Furthermore, slow or delayed delivery of benefit makes the lump sum that is paid for the car even larger, as this money is tied up instead of being invested. As many people calculated, a Tesla for $60-80K may never become profitable; you could buy a $20K car, invest $40-60K on 5%/yr terms, and this would net you a fixed income of $2-3K per year. Today that will pay for 500-750 gallons of gasoline, or (at 40 mpg) for 20-30K miles per year, forever. You must drive more than that to have a hope of ever breaking even because an EV has its own costs per mile. A heavily used fleet car can easily exceed this mileage; however an office worker who drives 15K miles per year cannot do that.

33 posted on 06/10/2014 7:15:10 AM PDT by Greysard
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