[jiggyboy]

One data point is no “proof”. Real researchers like John Lott (”More Guns, Less Crime”) collate hundreds of contrary incidents into real statistics.

[cripplecreek]

Paris Ainsworth, shot 4 times and still managed to return fire hitting 2 of 3 assailants (one of them twice)



The murder rate in Detroit is down between 25% and 30% from last year because of armed citizens and a police chief who supports them.