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Obama warns of U.S. action as jihadists push on Baghdad
Reuters ^ | 6/12/2014 | To many to list

Posted on 06/12/2014 6:52:47 PM PDT by Red6

President Barack Obama on Thursday threatened U.S. military strikes in Iraq against Sunni Islamist militants who have surged out of the north to menace Baghdad and want to establish their own state in Iraq and Syria.

Iraqi Kurdish forces took advantage of the chaos to take control of the oil hub of Kirkuk as the troops of the Shi'ite-led government abandoned posts, alarming Baghdad's allies both in the West and in neighboring Shi'ite regional power Iran.

"I don’t rule out anything because we do have a stake in making sure that these jihadists are not getting a permanent foothold in either Iraq or Syria," Obama said at the White House when asked whether he was contemplating air strikes. Officials later stressed that ground troops would not be sent in.

Obama was looking at "all options" to help Iraq's leaders, who took full control when the U.S. occupation ended in 2011. "In our consultations with the Iraqis, there will be some short-term immediate things that need to be done militarily," he said.

But he also referred to long-standing U.S. complaints that Shi'ite Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki had failed to do enough to heal a sectarian rift that has left many in the big Sunni minority, shut out of power when U.S. troops overthrew Saddam Hussein in 2003, nursing grievances and keen for revenge.

"This should be also a wakeup call for the Iraqi government. There has to be a political component to this," Obama said.

In a related article, Obama already publicly declares that there will be no use of ground troops: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/12/us-iraq-security-obama-military-idUSKBN0EN21220140612

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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KEYWORDS: iraq; obama
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The American Art of War

Stage I: Something bad happens.

Stage II: We drop a lot of ordinance, we pin medals on each other, give great sounding speeches on some metaphysical altruistic idea, declare victory, and leave.

Stage III: We watch as the place implodes from afar, write books (all self ingratiating) about how we could have done things differently, and make movies in which we somehow frame it as if we did win after all depending on how one looks at it.

This sounds a bit different from the Sun Tzu version of the "Art of War."

Vietnam

Lebanon

Somalia

Iraq: in the process of failing Afghanistan: next to fail

If you're not going to war with the intent to win, don't go to war!

For those of us who have lost friends or family, who sweat and toiled, separated from our loved ones for years, it was all in vain.

Post WWII, the US has had a hard time winning any war other than the quick campaign where you go in, smash everything and then leave. Some Presidents, like Reagan understood this reality and despite being very kinetic in his foreign policies, avoided any sort of protracted campaign where the US inherits a long term and large scale commitment on the ground, where we engage in nation building, or fighting a guerrilla war. Examples of Reagan: Grenada, Libya 1986, Iran 1988, most notably his anti communist proxy wars in Nicaragua, Afghanistan, Angola, and Cambodia.

1 posted on 06/12/2014 6:52:47 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6

You tell ‘em Barry! LOL!


2 posted on 06/12/2014 6:56:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Red6

OMG. Another Red Line in the sand. No, a pink line and a tutu. No, a sandy colored line that blends into the sandy colored sand.


3 posted on 06/12/2014 6:59:01 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Red6
"Obama warns of U.S. action as jihadists push on Baghdad"

Did he red crayon a circle around himself in the oval office?
4 posted on 06/12/2014 7:00:07 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Red6

In 2007, Obama said in his first presidential press conference that the lost military lives were ‘wasted in Iraq’.
Elections have consequences.


5 posted on 06/12/2014 7:02:24 PM PDT by griswold3 (I was born heI're in America. I will die here in a third world country. Obama succeeded.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
#jihadistpleasestop

There...all better! Now when is my tee time?

6 posted on 06/12/2014 7:02:52 PM PDT by freedombird (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness. -A. DeTocqueville)
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To: Red6

Now, there he goes again. Never tires of drawing red lines.


7 posted on 06/12/2014 7:03:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Red6

Oh no, one of those infamous Hillary Clinton “stern letters” .... probably quaking in their boots as they behead their enemies!


8 posted on 06/12/2014 7:04:08 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (If you lined up the best and brightest of this administration, you'd just have a string of dim bulbs)
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To: Red6

Somebody singing in the diner tonight, “Ba ba ba ba bomb Iraq . . .” The people are not going to go for this, I have a feeling.


9 posted on 06/12/2014 7:05:33 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Jim Robinson

Michelle keeps buying him New Pens!!


10 posted on 06/12/2014 7:06:12 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Red6

bump


11 posted on 06/12/2014 7:06:31 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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Make sure the maps are updated to avoid hitting the Chinese Embassy.


12 posted on 06/12/2014 7:06:35 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

So, rather than catching the Jihadist’s in a vast open space as they approach a City, we screw around and wait until they get entrenched in the City.

Obama must be getting advice from the infamous AA General Colin Powell, who advised Bush 41 to stop attacking the retreating Iraqi Military when they were in the open because it “looked bad”. War is hell, but Colin Powell never signed up for that reality.


13 posted on 06/12/2014 7:07:04 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

We can always use good military insight on this site and a reflection on the imbecility of past commands.


14 posted on 06/12/2014 7:10:34 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Red6

What does it take for Boehner to begin Articles of Impeachment for the Democrat’s Obama?


15 posted on 06/12/2014 7:11:48 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Red6

What a incredible mess. No one to really root for.


16 posted on 06/12/2014 7:13:01 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: lulu16

General Patton would have been proud. /s


17 posted on 06/12/2014 7:13:57 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses...)
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To: Red6
Sorry Bammy..but 2005 called....

No War in Iraq!
18 posted on 06/12/2014 7:15:22 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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Obama warns of U.S. action as jihadists push on Baghdad

I'll believe he'll take action it when I see it.

19 posted on 06/12/2014 7:19:23 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: MeshugeMikey

President Loudmouth had so many chips knocked off his shoulder, he has an aide whose sole function is to hand him fresh chips.


20 posted on 06/12/2014 7:26:03 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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