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Palin: Immigration Debate 'Just About Driving Me To Renounce My Republican Ties'
Talking Points Memo ^ | June 13 2014 | Catherine Thomas

Posted on 06/13/2014 12:58:35 PM PDT by PoloSec

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wasn’t talking about her.


81 posted on 06/13/2014 7:16:34 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Finny

NO.

You prevent the RINO from getting the nomination in the primary. As just happened with Cantor.

That’s what TEApartiers are doing.

Voting RAT is revulsive.


82 posted on 06/13/2014 7:19:03 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (June IS "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

You are 100% correct.

America needs to bring back jobs right here.

We have been sending jobs elsewhere, for an entire generation.

Bring jobs back here.


83 posted on 06/13/2014 7:19:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: TomServo

Oh, you’re claiming I “begged money” under “false pretenses” then? Funny, I’ve been a disabled veteran since 1983. How is that a “false pretense” my man?


84 posted on 06/13/2014 7:22:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: PoloSec

These children are being used as pawns in a diabolical plot by the Obama Regime to subvert our border and immigration laws. Zer0 is working with La Raza and appointed Cecilia Munoz (was on the National Council of La Razato) to replace Melody Barnes as the head of the Domestic Policy Council. Under her direction, it is all coming to a head. The strategy is, once these children get in the United States, they will be used to get the rest of their family in. The more of them, the more Democrat voters.


85 posted on 06/13/2014 9:47:10 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"America needs to bring back jobs right here."

The jobs won't come with the socialists crippling free enterprise with taxes and regulations. We need to vote out all the socialists. They are taking this nation down to a poverty state.

86 posted on 06/13/2014 9:51:15 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: jonrick46

Well America is where jobs will be done, by American employees, working directly for American owners.

Just saying.

America needs very much, to start playing for the American team.


87 posted on 06/13/2014 10:15:34 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Voting RAT is revulsive.

Who said anything about voting RAT? If anyone is voting RAT, it's the Republican who, after RINOs make it through the primaries, loyally vote for the left's collectivist agenda "Republican" style! How in hell do guys like Romney get in there? Well, for one thing, my California vote is meaningless in the Presidential primary. That decision is made long before it gets here. Yet I'm still expected to vote for the "Republican" they picked, a functional leftist like Romney.

Bye bye!

I don't have a solution as to how to fix the primaries, and I know that two years is only workable in extreme miracle circumstances. I fancy myself a realist, as everyone fancies themselves a realist. I see a replay of 2012 in fundamentals.

I am talking about the presidential race, PRESIDENT. If "we" fail to keep the RINO from getting the presidential nomination, voting for the RINO anyway will fail to materialize. Again.

You can tell yourself that in two short years, the primaries will be re-directed so that a true Abolish-Obamacare, No Amnesty, Reduce the Federal Government conservative will get the Republican nomination. If he or she does, I'll be right there behind you, Bro., and eat happy crow.

If another RINO gets the nod, and I'm expecting that to happen as I didn't think it could possibly get worse than McCain and then it did with Romney, I will vote for a third party limited government conservative, but I can tell you right now that most simply will decline to play the charade of voting for liberals to vote "against" liberalism, and will stay home. Unless a serious 3rd party/independent contender comes along calling for dumping Obamacare, cutting government, dumping amnesty, getting the Feds out of education, etc. etc. -- unless that happens, most folks will let somebody else make that important choice between Coke or Pepsi and all your regaling the troops to get in there and vote Coke ... er, Republican -- will mean zip.

Whether we like it or not.

Lucy. Football.

The Republican party has been too squirrelly for too long.

88 posted on 06/13/2014 11:35:32 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“WHY WHY WHY?”

Lighten up, Francis.


89 posted on 06/14/2014 12:26:22 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Lorianne

Mostly agree; however, we should not grant asylum. That is amnesty, and amnesty cannot stand.


90 posted on 06/14/2014 2:19:34 AM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: PoloSec
The Republicans are doing the right thing NOT addressing the stupid immigration “issue”. the democrats have set a trap. they have passed Amnesty in the Senate. any immigration related bill from the House will be merged with the Senate Amnesty bill.Tancredo and Bachmann explained this. NO immigration related bill from the house is the only chance we have to stop Amnesty and the destruction of the USA.

“In her Facebook post, Palin cited heat, illness, unsanitary conditions and potential sexual exploitation at the holding facility as examples of “child abuse.” She then railed against the GOP’s unwillingness to engage in meaningful reform on issues like border security. “

91 posted on 06/14/2014 2:43:51 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: SgtHooper

No. No asylyum. Refugee status, contained. They can be refugees in a contained area until a treaty is resolved with Mexico and Mexico pays reparations. Treat them well (at Mexico’s expense) but they are not free too roam about. Families could be reunited in the camps if they wanted to be together.

I see this as a refugee/treaty issue, not an immigration issue.

If more Mexicans were facing refugee camps they would stay in their own country .... or if things were so bad in Mexico that they would rather live in refugee camps indefinitely then that would be even further evidence that Mexico needs stern international sanctions against them until they get their act together.

Mexico has resources. They can pay .


92 posted on 06/14/2014 5:34:15 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Finny
Who said anything about voting RAT?

You did.

Voting is not binary. Your vote has a value of +1, 0, or -1. (unless you are a RAT or dead voter)

You can either hurt the RAT candidate or help him. A positive, or a zero vote helps him. Only a negative vote can hurt him. Voting "third party" is a zero vote.

Those who believe that the worst RINO imaginable could be anywhere near as bad as the America-hating/communist/moslem we have in there now, are delusional. Especially if that RINO President had to face a Republican/TEApublican House and Senate.

93 posted on 06/14/2014 10:07:06 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (June IS "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
A vote has +1 or 0.

The -1 is in your imagination.

94 posted on 06/14/2014 2:32:07 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
It is delusional to urge people to vote for leftist candidates as a means to stop leftism.

As we saw with Romney.

95 posted on 06/14/2014 2:33:24 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: KC_Lion

Well, let’s stop talking the talk and let’s walk the talk


96 posted on 06/14/2014 4:28:03 PM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: PoloSec

This is too funny, they are hoping she will leave the party.


97 posted on 06/14/2014 4:38:51 PM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: Finny
A vote has +1 or 0. The -1 is in your imagination.

WRONG!

If you vote for the guy who can win, it adds a 1 to his total (+1).

If you don't vote, or vote for Ross Perot, it adds zero to either side, and does not cancel out a positive (RAT) vote (0).

If you vote for the other guy that can win, you cancel out a RAT vote (-1)

98 posted on 06/15/2014 7:16:23 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (June IS "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; All; JRandomFreeper; EternalVigilance; so_real; Jim Robinson
Why do you perceive any third-party vote or any stay-at-home non-vote as benefitting the Democrat?

The answer to that is exactly WHY any "cancels a vote" -1 functional property of a vote is one hundred percent imaginary.

The -1 is in YOUR imagination BECAUSE it assumes entitlement to votes. YOUR scenario of "cancelling out a RAT vote" is 100 percent entitlement based. It assumes that any "legit" vote belongs to one or the other; for it to perceive that third party or un-voted ballots necessarily benefits "our" opponent is absurd mathematically as well as emotionally.

It IS imaginary, your -1 "cancels a vote" function of a vote.

Understand. Voting "against" is a material and mathematical sophistry. You may not like it and I may not like it, but that truth doesn't care whether we like it or not. It just IS. The ONLY thing that counts is what you vote FOR.

When you pretend that you can have a "third" vote "against," reality hits you in the ass because your third vote is FOR leftism, not against it, in FUNCTION.

When you talk about voting for Romney or his ilk, when you rationalize voting for Romney or his ilk, you NEVER talk about what you're voting for. You only ever talk about what that vote is supposedly "against."

Wake up and smell the coffee. Time is growing short.

99 posted on 06/15/2014 9:37:32 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny
It is not "100%" based. It's total vote based. You have heard of addition and subtraction haven't you?

The ONLY thing that counts is what you vote FOR.

No, the only thing that counts is what we wind up with. It's the positive total above 0 that counts. Zero votes don't get you there.

Why do you perceive any third-party vote or any stay-at-home non-vote as benefitting the Democrat?

Because it doesn't cancel a RAT vote.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

I AM NOT a Myth supporter, BUT even Biden couldn't have been as toxic for the US as what you gave us.

Wake up and smell America burning.

100 posted on 06/15/2014 10:44:47 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (June IS "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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