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To: grania

Uh actually Turkey in NATO. Was a GREAT idea for the entire Cold War. They gave us good bases and had a large and competent military and were a dependable ally. They were also a great friend of Israel. Meanwhile the Russians you are so fond of were and are our enemies.


51 posted on 06/14/2014 3:42:29 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Kozak
So what happens if war spreads into Turkey? The Kurds have wanted a nation including parts of Turkey for quite some time. Will NATO be obligated to defend Turkey against that?

What if the rebel-terrorists we arm and train in Syria attacked in Turkey?

There's already a situation in Iraq where we've armed both sides.

52 posted on 06/14/2014 4:07:52 PM PDT by grania
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To: Kozak
RE: "actually Turkey in NATO. Was a GREAT idea for the entire Cold War. They gave us good bases and had a large and competent military and were a dependable ally. They were also a great friend of Israel."

That's right!

And to all you others who think that Turkey and the Kurdish Regional Government are enemies.. think again. It don't look like it to me.

Turkey is helping the KRG get their oil to market despite Baghdad's attempts to stop it. Now it looks like the KRG may be the only thing left of Iraq.. with Turkey's help. And thar's oil in them there agreements.

It has been well known that..

". . . Ankara has entered into energy deals with the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG), something which has infuriated the central Iraqi government in Baghdad but which has helped the Kurds further build a foundation for their independence [yes true that] Ankara has been so alarmed by the growing Kurdish autonomy [in Syria and tolerated by Syria, I believe] that it reportedly has provided support for [ISIS] in their fight against the Kurdish militia that controls the region [of Syria],which is affiliated with the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)." [my emphasis]

more..

". . . the takeover by ISIS in recent days of Mosul and other cities . . . Ankara will likely not only have to deepen its relationship with the KRG . . . but also alter its approach to the Kurds in Syria [I ask: but demand that the Kurds in Syria reject the PKK?]"

more..

"Explains Lehigh University professor and Turkey expert Henri Barkey in an analysis piece on Al-Monitor website: The crisis may force the Turks to rethink some of their policies in Syria. To date, Ankara’s friendship with the Kurds stopped in Iraq; Erdogan and his government have taken an uncompromising position against Syrian Kurds led by the Democratic Union Party of Kurdistan (PYD), an offshoot of the Turkish Kurdish insurgent group the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK). The PYD has emerged as the strongest Kurdish group in Syria and has put together an impressive fighting force to defend its territory from both ISIS and the regime. The idea of another autonomous Kurdish region on its borders after the KRG has been anathema to Ankara. Paradoxically, the PYD’s armed elements are some of the only ones that have scored blows against the jihadists. In the face of the ISIS sweep, the PYD and the KRG, which have also had antagonistic relations, appear to be cooperating on defensive measures against ISIS. Turkey may have to reconsider its boycott of the Syrian Kurds to enlarge the anti-ISIS coalition." [my emphasis]

I don't think that the KRG wants anything to do with Turkey's enemy the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) terrorists -- our State Dept calls the PKK a terrorist group.

53 posted on 06/14/2014 4:43:53 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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