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To: Tailgunner Joe
The reality is that Russia is an opponent, albeit not perhaps the sworn enemy they used to be. So yes, it is a shame people back Putin. But perhaps they don't back PUTIN as much as they like a few facets of him, and wish Obama had those traits.

Obama hates America, Putin loves Russia.

Obama wants all of our efforts to fail, Putin wants all of Russia's efforts to succeed.

Obama is a confirmed Islamic terrorist, Putin fights and hates Islamic terrorists.

Obama has caused all or most of our allies to question us, some to leave us, while Putin has gained allies.

Obama wants Communism, Putin wants a government-friendly Capitalism.

They also share some very negative traits: Obama and Putin want no free speech. Obama and Putin both maneuver to rule forever. Obama and Putin will gladly kill citizens to achieve nefarious goals.

5 posted on 06/14/2014 11:34:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz
points well taken.

7 posted on 06/14/2014 11:37:20 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: Lazamataz

I also think that there is an expectation in Russia that leaders will be authoritarian....They simply don’t have the same DNA as Americans when it comes to politics. Our system of government isn’t for everyone.


10 posted on 06/14/2014 11:38:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Lazamataz

Putin does fight Muslim terrorists on what he currently regards as his soil, but openly aids them off his soil, especially Iran, the biggest sponsor of Islamic terror in the world.

Putin is as “capitalism-friendly” as Red China—all key industries on Russian soil are state-owned, as is the media nowadays, which means his capitalism (like Red China) is a means to an end.

Putin loves the USSR, not Russia; and as has been noted in this thread (and myriad others on FR), regards the fall of the USSR as the “greatest geopolitical catastrophe” of the last century (belittling the tragedy of WWII and elevating the Cold War) and has actively rehabilitated Djughashvili.


13 posted on 06/14/2014 11:43:15 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Lazamataz
Putin shows his love for Russians by stealing their freedom and crushing all dissenters? Is that how Obama shows the USA the same kind of love?

Putin wants Russia to succeed at what? Resurrecting the totalitarian Soviet EVIL EMPIRE?

Putin does not love Russia , he loves the Soviet Union, the EVIL EMPIRE.

Putin fights islamic terrorists by sending muslim Chechens into Georgia and Ukraine to slaughter Christians? By arming Sudan? By supplying the ayatollahs with enriched uranium?

Putin has gained allies? Whom? The Chi-coms? Daniel Ortega? Nauru?

Putin wants capitalism by nationalizing oil companies, the entire media and all banking?

Putin is the tyrant Obama only dreams of being. Should we wish for Obama to show us the same kind of “love” as Putin shows Russia? I sure don't.

18 posted on 06/14/2014 11:56:09 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Lazamataz
Putin fights and hates Islamic terrorists.

Putin fights and hates the Islamic terrorists who threaten his regime, and enables and supports those who threaten ours. That's not quite the same thing.

29 posted on 06/14/2014 12:13:06 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: Lazamataz

Russia certainly has many issues, but why classify them as an opponent? Are they threatening any vital US interests? Are they seeking to do us economic or military harm? Additionally, why is it our responsibility to defend nations that were once part of the USSR? I don’t want them taken over against their will, but what part do they play in their own defense? (I suppose you could say the same thing about the Iraqis. When are they responsible for defending themselves?)

Maybe I’m naive, but how come America has always claimed a sphere of control, aka the Monroe doctrine. Yet, we keep meddling in Russia’s business? We almost went to nuclear war over their meddling in Cuba, but we think it’s OK for us to make threatening alliances with Russia’s own neighboring states?

Additionally, I don’t see the USA as some great virtuous nation anymore. We’re pushing a lot of evil stuff on other countries. We act like a big, pushy bully, so I don’t think we have a lot of room to complain about how Russia treats other nations.


32 posted on 06/14/2014 12:21:35 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: Lazamataz

Exaggerated and simplistic in the extreme. Try to look for similarities, not just assume they’re polar opposites.


39 posted on 06/14/2014 12:38:53 PM PDT by x
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