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To: maggief

Surreal world, surreal possibilities. Remember in Braveheart where the Irish allies of King Edward suddenly abandon Edward and merge with Bravehearts forces? Obama thru Jarrett have spent a lot of time with the Iranians. Will a joint Caliphate be formed to deal with infidels including specifically the US and Israel? Sunnis and Shiites often unite against the common enemy and put their differences temporarily aside. The great success of capturing the Iraqi US Embassy and its staff for Isalamic ransom and political purposes is an unpreceded plum, greater than the Iranian capture of the US Iranian Embassy in the seventies. Maybe someone is golfing because the outcome is already known. Surreal, maybe not. The VP is about to go to Guatemala, Kerry is out of the country and the chief is in California golfing. Jarrett may be on duty.
Again, surreal. We do not live in interesing time, we live in surreal times.


14 posted on 06/15/2014 5:37:40 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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Well I’ve done extensive reading on this a few really insightful deeply analytical articles out there on the interwebs, search,search,search:

1)Limited American military involvement would be seen by the Sunni world as US approval of the Shia religion and would draw Sunni’s to the conflict like a magnet. This is not inline with US plans and wishes.

2) Iran should be able to handle this with military assistance and save Iraqs bacon, but due to economic sanctions Iran’s money is tight and there may be choices between military and economic resources for Syria versus resources for Iraq.


And not covered by anyone!

3)We assisted Sadam in the war against Iran, because we couldnt have Iran take over Iraq, most certainly Saudia Arabia feared this. No one is now making the case of why we should keep Iran out...or why this position has changed historically

4) The US invaded Iraq with BushII in the interest of national security and one of those goals was to keep Iran out of Iraq in a post-US withdrawal time. Those fears seem to have dissipated...and analysts aren’t explaining these things out. We historically dont want Iran in Iraq except in limited ways...why/how has this reasoning changed.

So all of a sudden, and not explained, it doesnt seem the US fears Iran with either increasing influence,troops or even control over Iraq and any fears of Iran siezing Iraq and tripping over the line into Saudi Arabia are not brought up. Iranian hegemony seems to be a thing of the past.


In my little opinion the US should stay out of Iraq again, unless they are the only and best hope to salvage the situation and we are not...Iran is.

Perhaps what is missing from all the analysis is that we feel we can control Iran economically such that they can be expected to behave in Iraq...Maybe this is so but no one states it or even brings up the subject.


18 posted on 06/15/2014 6:06:14 PM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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