it already has succeeded.
The gutless and useless GOP leadership has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
How so?
If the data for these emails has been lost, it was done a long time ago. This IRS scandal was a conspiracy from the git go and it was done by sophisticated people knowingly committing a crime.
Lois Lerner was head of ENFORCEMENT activities at the FEC so she is well aware of document preservation policies and she is also well aware of how people work to circumvent these rules.
The plan on how to destroy the e mail records and make sure these e mails never saw the light of day has been in action for a year or so before Lois Lerner intentionally outed the program herself at some conference.
The script on how this IRS scandal would go down was written in 2009 and 2010 and we are just now finally seeing it play out to the public.
Does anyone believe for second Lerner's hard drive simply “crashed” .
For the data to be unrecoverable, the disk drive media would have had to have been over written with garbage data or with zeros at least 3 times, or the would have had to have been placed into a de gausser to destroy the data with a strong magnetic field.
This was all well planned and people have been working in the background to destroy all back ups and cover their digital trails as part of “ normal operations” since way before this became public and anyone was aware there was a need to destroy documents.
so who is going to jail? will there be a perp walk of lerner and her underlings?
I don’t understand why your post hasn’t stirred up a a complete change in this thread’s discussion. A cursory reflection on the the context and magnitude of this scandal (using executive branch agencies as weapons to alter the outcome of a national election and a necessarily massive cover up) and the nature of the players involved, of course they planned this in advance and took steps, ahead of time, to ensure there would be no digital smoking gun!
You’re exactly right, this didn’t happen spur of the moment, as if it was somebody’s afterthought. We’re dealing with the most sophisticated and powerful, and best financed criminal enterprise the world has ever seen, by a huge margin. That any thinking FReeper would even for a moment fail to see this all had to be orchestrated far in advance and that a lot of thought and resources would go into covering all tracks, is rather mystifying. We know what happened. Pretty much everyone paying attention, regardless of their politics, knows what they did. Dem insiders and zealots alike always secretly know what’s really going on even as they obfuscate, lie, project, disparage accusers they know are telling the truth and all the rest. The notion they wouldn’t take sweeping steps to make it unprovable, deniable, with the confidence the media would as always have their backs, is preposterous in my opinion.
I’ll submit that if they weren’t fastidiously careful, there’s really no way something damning wouldn’t have already come to light. Especially considering the scale of the operation. Same with the myriad other scandals. It’s entirely possible the missing emails are nothing more than what someone thought a clever red herring and that all communications were by other means.
This reminds me of the lead up to the Obamacare SCOTUS decision. Obama’s smug confidence about the decision, weeks before it was handed down, screamed that the fix was in. All we had to do was let the passage of time confirm it. He’s a terrible actor, despite constant practice, and whenever he exudes confidence like that, be sure he knows something hidden from us and that the matter will play out in his favor. How he learned Roberts’ position, or whether Roberts was “influenced” somehow, I have no idea. But there’s no question in my mind he knew the outcome in advance. In this case, everyone involved knew there wouldn’t be anything tangible that could be leaked or or discovered, inadvertently or otherwise. If incriminating emails exist and can be found as so many here and elsewhere insist, then this entire administration and the democrat party would be sweating beneath Damocles’ sword, wondering if/when their decapitation will occur. The entire media, including Fox News if it had a mind to, couldn’t rescue them. That isn’t happening and they wouldn’t let it happen, having the abundant means to prevent it beforehand. I’m sure most IT professionals would agree that with the right and sufficient resources and absent the constraints of conscience and the law, there are ways to cover electronic tracks if they’re already in place before the communications take place.
Our only hope, I believe, is that enough circumstantial evidence surfaces and witnesses can be made to spill what they know that the whole charade comes apart. If that happens in connection with any of these historic scandals, we just might see the rest all of them break open. God willing! It would be nothing but fun reading the body language of the criminal in the WH after that happened, if he ever showed his face publicly again. But I really wish folks would acknowledge the obvious which you laid out so well in your post.
I don’t understand why your post hasn’t stirred up a a complete change in this thread’s discussion. A cursory reflection on the the context and magnitude of this scandal (using executive branch agencies as weapons to alter the outcome of a national election and a necessarily massive cover up) and the nature of the players involved, of course they planned this in advance and took steps, ahead of time, to ensure there would be no digital smoking gun!
You’re exactly right, this didn’t happen spur of the moment, as if it was somebody’s afterthought. We’re dealing with the most sophisticated and powerful, and best financed criminal enterprise the world has ever seen, by a huge margin. That any thinking FReeper would even for a moment fail to see this all had to be orchestrated far in advance and that a lot of thought and resources would go into covering all tracks, is rather mystifying. We know what happened. Pretty much everyone paying attention, regardless of their politics, knows what they did. Dem insiders and zealots alike always secretly know what’s really going on even as they obfuscate, lie, project, disparage accusers they know are telling the truth and all the rest. The notion they wouldn’t take sweeping steps to make it unprovable, deniable, with the confidence the media would as always have their backs, is preposterous in my opinion.
I’ll submit that if they weren’t fastidiously careful, there’s really no way something damning wouldn’t have already come to light. Especially considering the scale of the operation. Same with the myriad other scandals. It’s entirely possible the missing emails are nothing more than what someone thought a clever red herring and that all communications were by other means.
This reminds me of the lead up to the Obamacare SCOTUS decision. Obama’s smug confidence about the decision, weeks before it was handed down, screamed that the fix was in. All we had to do was let the passage of time confirm it. He’s a terrible actor, despite constant practice, and whenever he exudes confidence like that, be sure he knows something hidden from us and that the matter will play out in his favor. How he learned Roberts’ position, or whether Roberts was “influenced” somehow, I have no idea. But there’s no question in my mind he knew the outcome in advance. In this case, everyone involved knew there wouldn’t be anything tangible that could be leaked or or discovered, inadvertently or otherwise. If incriminating emails exist and can be found as so many here and elsewhere insist, then this entire administration and the democrat party would be sweating beneath Damocles’ sword, wondering if/when their decapitation will occur. The entire media, including Fox News if it had a mind to, couldn’t rescue them. That isn’t happening and they wouldn’t let it happen, having the abundant means to prevent it beforehand. I’m sure most IT professionals would agree that with the right and sufficient resources and absent the constraints of conscience and the law, there are ways to cover electronic tracks if they’re already in place before the communications take place.
Our only hope, I believe, is that enough circumstantial evidence surfaces and witnesses can be made to spill what they know that the whole charade comes apart. If that happens in connection with any of these historic scandals, we just might see the rest all of them break open. God willing! It would be nothing but fun reading the body language of the criminal in the WH after that happened, if he ever showed his face publicly again. But I really wish folks would acknowledge the obvious which you laid out so well in your post.
Pardon the double post, sent from iPhone.