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Republicans keep pressing IRS over lost emails from Lerner, six others (Calling IT Professionals!!!)
CBS News ^ | June 18, 2014 | Stephanie Condon/

Posted on 06/19/2014 7:08:51 PM PDT by Innovative

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To: roamer_1

cspan 9 am est tomorrow ways and means and irs commissionerhttp://www.c-span.org/video/?320046-1/irs-targeting-investigation


101 posted on 06/19/2014 11:00:01 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: j_guru
As a SAN admin/Systems Admin, I can tell you without a doubt that the emails still exist. They need to get some professionals in there(!)

As a person who has worked with gov't and gov't contractor IT before, I can believe they lost the data and don't know how to get it back. Entirely through some kind of malfeasance probably, but not specifically due to a cover-up...I still remember one classic case where the backup ran every day, but when DR time came around there were no files to restore. The log showed that every backup taken for the last two years had failed because the tape drive was not properly mounted, heheh. But the job ran, that's what was measured.

If they didn't hire professional sysadmins, or ignored the issues - that's also malfeasance. It's contributory - and that claim about spoilation of evidence made by the TTV attorney has legs.

102 posted on 06/19/2014 11:27:41 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Obstruction of justice


103 posted on 06/20/2014 12:37:09 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Innovative

Nothing will happen. The GOP has lost all courage.


104 posted on 06/20/2014 12:54:18 AM PDT by AdaGray (q)
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To: Innovative

Hs it occurred to anyone else yet that these government IT service providers are of the same caliber of those now responsible for managing your healthcare records and medical care?


105 posted on 06/20/2014 12:58:36 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Innovative

Issa and Cummings laughed at the IRS so hard,
the hard drives were “lost” on the directive
of DOING NOTHING.

Arrest Obama, Holder, Cummings and Issa - all complicit
in the destruction of the USA.


106 posted on 06/20/2014 2:34:52 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: unixfox; WildHighlander57

Get Trump to offer a million dollar reward for finding the emails Bet they’d have them in a couple of days!


107 posted on 06/20/2014 2:47:15 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Ben Mugged

Nixon had tapes, Obamalama has the NSA!

Nixon petty thief, Obamalama professional level!


108 posted on 06/20/2014 3:39:32 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: hoosiermama

Not a bad idea..... not bad at alllll


109 posted on 06/20/2014 5:11:05 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Gideon7

I havent managed email servers for quite some time now. The last design I was involved in for Exchange 2010 required an HA cluster of MS SQL server. I don’t do DB admin, I just prepped them. I know they were required, that’s all


110 posted on 06/20/2014 5:47:03 AM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Yardstick
Two things come to mind. First, even in PCI, keeping local copies of any email is a violation. I'm not an expert on compliance, I just follow the guidelines that have been reduced to bullet points and one of the mandates is that we disable local cache and only archive to network drives. Secondly, they are bound by mandate to retain emails for a given period... someone here mentioned 7 years but I don't know for certain. The USG does in fact operate an email archiving system of its own. This is not the same as the user archiving we are all familiar with. The software runs on the MTA servers (usually) and every email that passes through it gets copied to the archives, well out of reach of the user. Only an admin delegated privileges can scrub any emails from that system. This is legal stuff and I don't know a single admin that would get caught dead with their hand in THAT cookie jar.

Keep in mind, I don't work for government IT and never have so I'm making some assumptions here based on common practice. One thing I do know for certain is that they DO use archiving software and I'd bet my life savings that if in fact those emails are missing, they were deleted and cleaned on purpose. It's an actual chore to permanently lose email in an environment like this.

111 posted on 06/20/2014 5:56:21 AM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
All email goes through an MTA (Message transfer agent) if it's on premise.

Isn't that what the Microsoft Exchange MTA Stacks service does? I just have Exchange and a static IP address with an MX record. I don't have anything else but an Adtran router between my mail server and the internet.
112 posted on 06/20/2014 6:58:52 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Congress needs to subpoena ALL the IT people that could or did work on the server system and put the fear of jail in them.

An offer of 10 million dollars tax free to whoever can produce the e-mails in question might get some results.

113 posted on 06/20/2014 10:08:32 AM PDT by dearolddad (/i>)
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To: kiryandil

You are right on target. Let’s not forget that this administration has co-opted the executive and all agencies within that branch.

People involved in this undertaking would have had to be true believers in the cause.

I also believe that this administration could have outsourced this undertaking to a company not of the US.

But this is why the Pre_sent when interviewed by BoR on superbowl game day could confidently respond that there was not a smidgeon of evidence of illegality where the IRS was concerned.

He knew because he had authorized the check to the IT folks who had cleaned this all up.

The more I think about it, they probably used high-powered magnets to wipe the hard drives at night. Come to work the next day, ‘Hey my hard drive crashed’.

That still doesn’t account for the servers.

What needs to happen now is for the IT division of the IRS to be locked out of all computer resources. Bring in independent consultants to pour over these servers.


114 posted on 06/20/2014 2:03:22 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: mmichaels1970

The removal from the server is probably the setting of a flag which takes the email off of her account and schedules the email for deletion...

Once it has been added to a backup file.

If regular users had the ability to delete an email from the server, no emails would ever be saved.


115 posted on 06/20/2014 2:47:14 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: j_guru

“As a SAN admin/Systems Admin, I can tell you without a doubt that the emails still exist. They need to get some professionals in there, to examine the off-site backups, and Virtual Volume Physical Copies/VV Snapshots ( of which they could have thousands ) and find them. Until they actually call in the pros, and stop talking to people who really have no clue, this investigation is just a joke.”

This is exactly what bothers me — why aren’t they bringing in the REAL professionals?!

Even the Republicans just make stupid statements, instead of getting a court order to search for those records and let a few dozen REAL IT professionals loose to go after that data.


116 posted on 06/20/2014 6:30:50 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: unixfox

“I am an I.T. professional and have been for 30 years. I will GUARANTEE those emails are recoverable.”

Everything you said makes sense — so why don’t the Republicans at least have some sense and get a court order to do exactly as you suggest;

“I would have EVERY computer, tablet, smart phone and any other devices seized from Lerner and EVERYBODY in her contact list as a start. Then I would seize the servers and subpoena EVERY person involved in the administration of those servers. Answers would come swiftly if facing jail time.”


117 posted on 06/20/2014 6:34:35 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: FunkyZero

” I replace at LEAST one dead drive every single day in my arrays and SAN platforms and I’ve never lost one single bit of data. “

Thanks for your detailed answer. What you said is what makes sense.

I think after the 9-11-2011 terror attacks data backup became even more sophisticated, backing them up at different locations in addition to local backups.

“They are flat-out lying and I’d bet my reputation on it.”

I believe you.


118 posted on 06/20/2014 6:40:50 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: FunkyZero

Okay, interesting — thanks.


119 posted on 06/21/2014 6:12:01 PM PDT by Yardstick
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