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Republicans: Now is the time to admit you were wrong about the Iraq War
The Week ^ | 06/20/2014 | Michael Brendan Dougherty

Posted on 06/20/2014 6:21:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Reddy

Don’t forget he was firing missiles at our pilots on a routine basis. If ever grounds existed for going to war against a dictator they existed for going to war against Saddam Hussein. Every other dictator in the world got the message after 9/11 not to take any sort of hostile action against the United States with the exception of Hussein. Given that, we had no choice but to go to war against him.


41 posted on 06/20/2014 6:56:55 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll admit it when the Rats admit that Obama is trying to destroy the country.


42 posted on 06/20/2014 6:58:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Bush hadn’t put us there and then pulled in the UN to help destroy multiple weapon caches,,THOSE weapons would be in the hands of ISIS right now. Apparently that is what this author was hoping for.


43 posted on 06/20/2014 6:58:12 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Arlis

When is Obama going to admit that he backed the wrong side in Libya, Egypt, and Syria?


44 posted on 06/20/2014 6:59:07 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: CommieCutter

Last night I heard them on the radio. Once again, he was talking about how conservatives and liberals should set their differences aside and walk hand in hand.


45 posted on 06/20/2014 7:01:12 PM PDT by MNDude (In Heaven pizza is from Chicago and there are no politicians. In Hell...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not wrong in going there just wrong in not doing the job right.
Then I am not sure the America people have what it takes to do the job right anymore.....
We are not our grandfathers that is for sure........


46 posted on 06/20/2014 7:02:20 PM PDT by 48th SPS
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To: Mr Rogers

Thank you for your service, sir.


47 posted on 06/20/2014 7:04:08 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: VerySadAmerican

lol Yes, the republicans should admit they were wrong about the Iraq war when the democrats admit they were wrong about zero. lol

The only problem is, it’s comparing apples to oranges because we were not wrong to go to war with Iraq, but zero has always been a total failure.


48 posted on 06/20/2014 7:06:27 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: MNDude

He is living in a dream world.


49 posted on 06/20/2014 7:07:13 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: SeekAndFind

From NY Times Article: How many people did Saddam kill?

The terror is self-compounding, with the state’s power reinforced by stories that relatives of the victims pale to tell — of fingernail-extracting, eye-gouging, genital-shocking and bucket-drowning. Secret police rape prisoners’ wives and daughters to force confessions and denunciations. There are assassinations, in Iraq and abroad, and, ultimately, the gallows, the firing squads and the pistol shots to the head.

DOING the arithmetic is an imprecise venture. The largest number of deaths attributable to Mr. Hussein’s regime resulted from the war between Iraq and Iran between 1980 and 1988, which was launched by Mr. Hussein. Iraq says its own toll was 500,000, and Iran’s reckoning ranges upward of 300,000. Then there are the casualties in the wake of Iraq’s 1990 occupation of Kuwait. Iraq’s official toll from American bombing in that war is 100,000 — surely a gross exaggeration — but nobody contests that thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians were killed in the American campaign to oust Mr. Hussein’s forces from Kuwait. In addition, 1,000 Kuwaitis died during the fighting and occupation in their country.

Casualties from Iraq’s gulag are harder to estimate. Accounts collected by Western human rights groups from Iraqi émigrés and defectors have suggested that the number of those who have “disappeared” into the hands of the secret police, never to be heard from again, could be 200,000. As long as Mr. Hussein remains in power, figures like these will be uncheckable, but the huge toll is palpable nonetheless.
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Using a satanic arithmetic, prison governors worked out how many prisoners would have to be hanged to bring the numbers down to stipulated levels, even taking into account the time remaining in the inmates’ sentences. As 20 and 30 prisoners at a time were executed at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere, warders trailed through cities like Baghdad, “selling” exemption from execution to shocked families, according to people in Iraq who said they had spoken to relatives of those involved. Bribes of money, furniture, cars and even property titles brought only temporary stays.


50 posted on 06/20/2014 7:08:24 PM PDT by Portcall24 (aer)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s too early to make a judgement call on this.

Since 9/11, there has not been a serious act of terror perpetrated on U.S. soil. That is an accomplishment for which GWB deserves credit.

Only time will tell if Obama’s policy of abandoning Iraq is the right one. If Iraq henceforth becomes a hotbed and springboard of terrorist training and activity throughout the world, GWB will have been proved right and Obama wrong.


51 posted on 06/20/2014 7:08:58 PM PDT by randita
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To: Ramius

Great post.


52 posted on 06/20/2014 7:10:05 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: SeekAndFind

When I was 14 I learned my new best friends father was working in Arabia on oil terminal infrastructure. I asked him “what the hell are we doing over there?” Again I ask , what the hell are we doing over there?


53 posted on 06/20/2014 7:10:12 PM PDT by rsobin
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To: Romulus

which lies and fantasies?


54 posted on 06/20/2014 7:11:01 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Romulus

“The Iraq war was always wrong and always unwinnable. It was premised upon lies and utopian fantasies. Obama’s a piece of Shiite, but Iraq is Bush’s disaster and will always have his name on it.”

I completely disagree.


55 posted on 06/20/2014 7:14:54 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Reddy
... I won’t be apologizing for the US going to war with Iraq.

Amen!

WMD were an invention of the Bolshies to make sure Bush could not go to war. Leave no doubt, WMD were there, or, the ability to make WMD quickly. Now, Jihadi have remnants of WMD that reasonable people would assume to be useless, but, people prone to suicidal killing would not find them useless at all.

The Iraq war was to show people that actions have consequences. zerO has shown people do what you want, there will be no consequences.

56 posted on 06/20/2014 7:15:20 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Portcall24

Right before the war, I read that Saddam was killing 80 people a day at his prison. That doesn’t include those being tortured.

He threatened to bring that killing machine to our shores while supporting terrorism against us. We were right to take him out.


57 posted on 06/20/2014 7:16:14 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: CommieCutter

I still listen to him, but I don’t trust him anymore since he said he supported homosexual marriage. He is talking out of both sides of his mouth.


58 posted on 06/20/2014 7:18:48 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is just an attempt to avoid blame and shift it to the Republicans. They will keep up this drumbeat until their dying day - Blame Bush, it is the Republicans fault. Everything bad is the fault of those we are opposed to - that is their eternal psyops message.

In Iraq, just as in Vietnam, the Democrats got a boost in Congress from a war weary population (and the Watergate scandal in 1973), and promptly used their increased political power to withdraw support from the US allies in in Vietnam and Iraq, throwing them to the wolves.

The massacres were stupendous in the killing fields of Cambodia after the Democrats abandonment, and the gulags of Vietnam were stuffed with hundreds of thousands enduring re-education, and a whole generation was condemned to squalid poverty, brutal oppression, and meager rations under the ensuing socialist dictatorship.

The liberals just blamed this or that Republican policy or decision for the whole situation; while others tried to deny that things were really bad at all under the Communists (Noam Chomsky was a noted apologist for the Khmer Rouge, until it was just no longer feasible in the face of the mountains of corpses).

It is SOP for them to blow smoke to obfuscate the disasters left in their wake. Before World War Two, fascism was the face of modern scientific progressivism. It was just one more flavor of the collectivist left of that time. Adolph Hitler was Time magazine’s man of the year for 1937, and John Maynard Keynes was Director of the British Eugenics Society. After the war, when the horrific fruit of their policies were unavoidable and inexcusable, they went on a sustained effort to paint National Socialism (Nazi) as the exact opposite of socialism, rather than the direct outgrowth that it was - rewriting history and misleading the public.

It is a cliche how they distance themselves from one horrific failure after another - real socialism hasn’t been tried yet, so-and-so betrayed the ideals of the revolution, this time we have it right, etc.

They never quit lying -it is the very essence of their political strategy to gain power.


59 posted on 06/20/2014 7:21:49 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Reddy

I refuse to listen to that moron anymore. He fooled me long enough. He’s a commie lib.


60 posted on 06/20/2014 7:24:00 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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