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Top Malaysian Court Rules "Allah" Only For Muslims [OK- But Confine "Prophet" To Bible References]
YahooNews ^ | June 22, 2014 | EILEEN NG

Posted on 06/22/2014 11:06:10 PM PDT by Steelfish

Edited on 06/22/2014 11:11:20 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — Malaysia's top court on Monday upheld a government ban forbidding non-Muslims from using "Allah" to refer to God, rejecting an appeal by the Roman Catholic Church that argued that the ban failed to consider the rights of minorities in the mostly Muslim nation.


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1 posted on 06/22/2014 11:06:10 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

This is actually good. Notwithstanding the argument that Allah merely means god in Arabic, this ruling will stop the confusion of Christians using that term as if it refers to the one true Biblical God ... Instead of the Satanic Moslem “ god” Allah who commands his followers to murder or subjugate Christians ( and everyone else on earth).


2 posted on 06/22/2014 11:21:21 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Steelfish
Malaysia's top court on Monday upheld a government ban forbidding non-Muslims from using "Allah" to refer to God.

I'll gladly comply with that ruling. Why? In fact allah is satan...not God. And need it be added that muzzies are the devil's disciples as evidenced in the picture below.


3 posted on 06/22/2014 11:22:07 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Steelfish

Muslims are getting more extreme all the time. While the west is getting wimpier and wimpier.

Bad combination.


4 posted on 06/22/2014 11:24:37 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: Steelfish

Agree. I’m offended with their moon ‘god’ (demon) is confused with the God of Abraham and Isaac.

No leftist ever challenges Muzzies on the way Christians are treated in Muslim countries, or women, or gays... Free pass because, I suppose, who are we to judge any other culture... unless, of course, it’s Christians. Then they bash away!


5 posted on 06/22/2014 11:41:49 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Steelfish

In Islam, Allah is one particular god, not a generic term like “diety” is in English, even though the word and related words were used generically by many non-islamic peoples before Muhammed, and up till the present day.

Allah was a particular pagan diety in the pre-islamic pagan pantheon on the Arabian Peninsula and Middle East for over a thousand years before Islam. He was viewed as a creator god, god of the moon, and often as first among the gods by the pagans. Muhammed’s own Uncle was named in honor of the pagan Allah (who had a goddess wife and daughters, as well as brothers who were gods).

Muhammed is believed to have promoted Allah from the chief god of a pantheon to the status of sole god, like Isaiah is believed to have done with Yahweh from the Canaanite pantheon, to establish a monotheistic religion.

At one point in his early ministry, Muhammed reportedly announced as official divine revelation, that Allat, al-’Uzza and Manat (three other goddesses worshipped by the Meccans) could also interecede to help people. This garnered him a lot of new support from local pagans, but caused so much dissent among his older followers that he is reported to have retracted it from the Quran, claiming that the devil had made him say it (among the so-called Satanic Verses, removed from the Quran).

After this, monotheism remained a bedrock principle of Islam, and the basis of Mohammed’s totalitarian power among muslims, as only he could speak for the only god (the first of the five pillars of Islam). The assertion of the pre-eminence of Allah, is the basis for Islamic claims of authority over all people - the justification for their use of force and for their suspension of any law of war restrictions when dealing with non-muslims.

So the court’s ruling is not based on entymology or history - it is simply asserting Islamic supremacy. Islam gets to dictate, and impose it’s position on all others, and censor any thought or speech detrimental to Islamic supremacy.

Allahu Akbar does not mean “God is Great” in a generic sense, as it is usually presented in English. It literally means “Allah is greater”, as in, “my god is superior to yours”.


6 posted on 06/23/2014 12:14:55 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Steelfish

Start using the local term that translate exactly as “Supreme Being”; the clear implication being that it is superior to their stinking, wretched allah.


7 posted on 06/23/2014 2:59:16 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: faithhopecharity

It will most likely make Christians use the better name Yawwah which is Biblical.


8 posted on 06/23/2014 3:36:56 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: BeauBo

Or to translate, “my god the devil is better than your god, the God of the Bible” in other words.


9 posted on 06/23/2014 3:38:03 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: All

Opps, misspelling, it is “Yahweh”. Sorry.


10 posted on 06/23/2014 3:40:06 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: BeauBo

It would be much, much better if Christians use the name “Yaweh” because of its Bible origins.


11 posted on 06/23/2014 3:42:36 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
I'm kind of fond of the notion that the name is not pronounceable. That makes it as mysterious and awesome as the rest of YHWH's attributes. YMMV.

From here:

Yahweh is the promised name of God. This name of God which (by Jewish tradition) is too holy to voice, is actually spelled "YHWH" without vowels. YHWH is referred to as the Tetragrammaton (which simply means "the four letters"). YHWH comes from the Hebrew letters: Yud, Hay, Vav, Hay. While YHWH is first used in Genesis 2, God did not reveal Himself as YHWH until Exodus 3. The modern spelling as "Yahweh" includes vowels to assist in pronunciation. Many pronounce YHWH as "Yahweh" or "Jehovah." We no longer know for certain the exact pronunciation. During the third century A.D., the Jewish people stopped saying this name in fear of contravening the commandment "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain" (Exd 20:7). As a result of this, Adonai is occasionally a substitute for YHWH. The following compound names which start with "YHWH" have been shown using "Jehovah." This is due to the common usage of "Jehovah" in the English of these compound names in the early English translations of the Bible (e.g., the Geneva Bible, the King James Version, etc.).

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12 posted on 06/23/2014 4:01:17 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (The fool is always greater than the proof.)
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To: Steelfish
How quaint!

The Church apparently thinks Muslims are concerned over the rights of people they don't even consider 'human'.

13 posted on 06/23/2014 5:20:57 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

I remember a few years back, Pope Benedict XVI directed Catholics in regards to speaking the name of God in public, Yahweh, not to do so because in respect to the Jewish honor given to the holy name of God.

Like for example, if you want in private prayers to play from an old record a song that pronouces that holy name of God, that is your business. It cannot be done in public worship though.


14 posted on 06/23/2014 5:42:31 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

Thank-you!


15 posted on 06/23/2014 5:44:42 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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