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Gang of men smashed American tourist's eye socket with bottle of Jagermeister [UK/Religion of Peace]
UK Daily Mail ^ | 24 Jun 2014 | Lizzie Edmonds

Posted on 06/24/2014 10:23:55 AM PDT by Fitzy_888

A gang of men attacked an American student while he was drinking in the street - grabbing a glass bottle from his hands and smashing it over his head, a court was told.

Francesco Hounye, 23, from Florida, had been in Britain for just three days when he was set upon by the men while he was walking home with a friend in Shadwell, east London.

Shaleem Uddin, 20, Shadhat Hussain, 19, Kamrul Hussain, 22, and Massom Rahman, 22, targeted Mr Hounye when they saw him swigging from a bottle of Jagermeister.

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They then chased him, beat him, and smashed the bottle over his head, Snaresbrook Crown Court heard.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: assault; britain; iraq; isis; islam; jihadineurope; uk; ukmuslims; wot
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"Gang of men smashed American tourist's eye socket with bottle of Jagermeister he was drinking from after wrestling it from his hands"

1 posted on 06/24/2014 10:23:55 AM PDT by Fitzy_888
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To: Fitzy_888

Shame to get smashed in the face over such awful tasting cough syrup.


2 posted on 06/24/2014 10:27:29 AM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: Fitzy_888

This happened in October last year, why are they re-running it??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2473170/American-student-scarred-life-brutal-mob-attack-caught-CCTV-days-arrived-UK.html


3 posted on 06/24/2014 10:29:01 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: LRoggy

They appeared in court, said it was: “mistaken identity”.

(The article is heavily excerpted as required, read more at the link.)


4 posted on 06/24/2014 10:32:59 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888

why would anyone ever visit any place that doesn’t respect their rights to self-protection?


5 posted on 06/24/2014 10:33:41 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Fitzy_888

Jagermeister, what a shame..................


6 posted on 06/24/2014 10:36:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 2,735 threads and 84,728 replies, as of 06-20-2014)
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To: Fitzy_888
"Gang of men"?
Hardly. I see the names of barbarian trash.
7 posted on 06/24/2014 10:36:48 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: LRoggy

Excerpt: (what’s new)

Uddin was arrested in April this year after he was recognised by a police officer who had seen the CCTV footage, the court was told.

Samad Uddin, of Shadwell, east London, denies causing GBH with intent.

Shaleem Uddin, of Whitechapel, has admitted GBH with intent.

Kamrul Hussain, also of Whitechapel, Shahdat Hussain, of Newham and Masoom Hussain of Whitechapel, have admitted causing grievous bodily harm.

The trial continues.

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8 posted on 06/24/2014 10:45:35 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888

Muslims.


9 posted on 06/24/2014 10:45:43 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Radicalized via the Internet)
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To: Fitzy_888

“Islamic Savages in the UK beat Visiting American Citizen for posession of perfectly legal alcohol product”

That is how the damned headline SHOULD read...


10 posted on 06/24/2014 10:47:57 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Red Badger
Jagermeister, what a shame..................

Not really.

11 posted on 06/24/2014 10:50:41 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Fitzy_888

The man beaten has a hispanic sounding name, however he “looks” like he might have come from the middle east to the untrained eye...

I think the motive IS clear, the Islamics thought he was a fellow mooslimb who was partaking in “Haram” alcohol and they decided to pretend they were the religious police in Saudi Arabia and beat this poor man....

Any excuse the loonatics that beat him is probabaly a lie and this above is most likely the REAL reason this man was beaten..

Of course eating a ham sandwich in paris will get you beaten too....


12 posted on 06/24/2014 10:53:24 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Fitzy_888

Notice how comments are disabled on this article.......

Very Fascinating...


13 posted on 06/24/2014 10:54:33 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Sirius Lee

I love it, myself. It’s an ‘acquired’ taste.........................


14 posted on 06/24/2014 10:59:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 2,735 threads and 84,728 replies, as of 06-20-2014)
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To: Fitzy_888

Amish?


15 posted on 06/24/2014 11:05:16 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Secret Agent Man

Ireland / Armed / Muslim population 1.07%

England / Unarmed / Muslim population 5% with 9% of children under five years of age.

Go to Ireland...but for the love of Pete don’t order Jaegermeister.


16 posted on 06/24/2014 11:12:24 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888
Shari law prohibits drinking alcohol, and if caught drinking in public it's really bad news.

What? ..this is the UK!!

I know!

17 posted on 06/24/2014 11:16:27 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Fitzy_888
Ireland / Armed

Are you saying that Irish citizens can have private pistols, etc.? I was not aware of that. Details, please.

18 posted on 06/24/2014 11:21:49 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Fitzy_888

Were they let off because of a culture “misunderstanding”?


19 posted on 06/24/2014 11:29:03 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: LRoggy
No one listened to the anti muslim cries 12-15 years ago and now the islamists are everywhere, and the bastards that ignored our caution are (imo) trying to get someone else to respond to the invasion(s) of every country (except China, I think)

I'm so disillusioned, I don't care anymore about others ... I'm prepared to protect me and mine.

Sadly, great nations are falling to mindless, one-brain-celled zombies.

20 posted on 06/24/2014 11:34:46 AM PDT by knarf (brooklyn bridge)
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To: Fitzy_888

More adherents of the “peaceful religion”.

No one in the western world will be safe until each and every Muslim is converted or expelled.


21 posted on 06/24/2014 11:35:02 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach Obama NOW.)
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To: Fitzy_888

Welcome to Sharia “law”.


22 posted on 06/24/2014 11:36:57 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Fitzy_888

Just wondering what would happen in the US when muzzies start doing that ....


23 posted on 06/24/2014 11:44:02 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: Secret Agent Man
why would anyone ever visit any place that doesn’t respect their rights to self-protection?

I won't be anymore. From 1993 to 1999 I made multiple trips to Wales. My wife and I landed at the airport, rented a car and drove directly to Cardiff before making a stop. We erred with a choice of Gatwick the first time. The drive was longer than starting from Heathrow. We've stayed at B&B locations in Cardiff, Carmarthen and Aberystwyth. It has been 15 years since our last visit. I'm less comfortable with the changes I've observed over that interval.

24 posted on 06/24/2014 11:46:17 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Fitzy_888
More Norwegian atrocities.
25 posted on 06/24/2014 11:56:19 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: TexasCajun

>What? ..this is the UK!!<

.
(Sigh) It once was.

Just like Camelot, it’s gone.


26 posted on 06/24/2014 11:56:41 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Leaning Right

Pistols are very difficult to get a permit for, but not impossible. Getting a permit for a long guns would roughly equate to what would be required here (the hoops you would jump through) for a concealed carry permit here.

I’ve been to gun stores in Ireland, the guns are typically in vault rooms (legacy of past IRA thefts), but they won’t let a foreign national in the vault room for fear of their license.


27 posted on 06/24/2014 11:58:06 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: SkyDancer
Just wondering what would happen in the US when muzzies start doing that ....

That's when I dust off my Sharpshooter badge (M-14 & M-16),put in a lot of range time and then.....

28 posted on 06/24/2014 11:58:58 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: freeangel

Who was guilty of the misunderstanding — the American or the muzzies?


29 posted on 06/24/2014 11:59:18 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: ZULU
No one in the western world will be safe until each and every Muslim is converted or expelled,expelled or.....

Sorry,had to fix it for ya.

30 posted on 06/24/2014 12:01:42 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Fitzy_888

Well let’s see now, this occurred in Britain, the attackers are muslin, the victim was an American, probably a Christian, verdict? American pays all court costs and fees and must formally apologize to the muslins for not respecting their culture of barbarity hatred.


31 posted on 06/24/2014 12:59:00 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Goldsborough

Getting smacked in the eye with a bottle of Jagermeister: Still less lethal than drinking it.


32 posted on 06/24/2014 1:09:00 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Goldsborough

My thought exactly.


33 posted on 06/24/2014 1:09:19 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Gay State Conservative

Careful there. I hope it’s just a misunderstanding on my part, but others reading your comment might also think that you’re implying that some sort of violent action against “each and every Muslim” would be an acceptable solution to make the western world safe.


34 posted on 06/24/2014 1:14:32 PM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: Secret Agent Man
Why would anyone ever visit any place that doesn’t respect their rights to self-protection?

I try to avoid going into states that don't recognize my CC permit. I would never go to Europe for that reason, and especially the UK, which is a very dangerous country.

Decades ago, I did visit European countries on several occasions. But then, I was young and foolish.

35 posted on 06/24/2014 2:36:26 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Fitzy_888

I guess it’s just going to take a bit longer for the Brits (or, in this case, an American visiting there) to realize that the RULES HAVE CHANGED, and now they risk a lot more than a “traffic ticket” by a Bobby if they care to drink in public.

The Brits will, eventually, figure this out - as more and more of them get their faces rearranged (or worse).


36 posted on 06/24/2014 5:25:36 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Fitzy_888

Irish gun laws are very similar to British gun laws.


37 posted on 06/25/2014 8:52:48 AM PDT by Mitch86
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To: OldPossum

No, the UK isn’t a ‘very dangerous’ country.

Our murder rate is a quarter of yours, our gun murder rate one-sixteenth. Yes, we have crime, and some of it violent, but for all the hoopla and hype, the UK is a safe country to live in.

Frankly, being told the UK is violent by an American perhaps is the definition of irony.


38 posted on 06/25/2014 7:15:40 PM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: the scotsman

I’m too lazy to look up the data but my recollection is that there is considerably more violent crime per capita in the UK than in America. You focus on guns, I focus on violent crime (strong-armed robberies, break-ins with assaults on the homeowners, that sort of thing). Deny?

I have been to your country several times. For several reasons (one of which is your country’s crime problem), I won’t be back...something I’m sure distresses you.

P.S. I don’t worry about violent crime where I live since I have the means of fending off assailants: my guns. Too bad about you.


39 posted on 06/25/2014 7:31:18 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: OldPossum

The UK’s biggest violent crime is burglary. Most of which take place when the homeowner is out.

Armed robbery isn’t a major crime, certainly not at US levels, violent assaults tend to be the result of excess alcohol and whilst again they exist, the numbers certainly wont be any worse per capita than your nation. Remember there are 28 different types of assault on the UK statute books. That’s why the UK figures re violent crime are skewed and the UK appears so ‘violent’. In fact, crime and violent crime has dropped across the UK.

I can guess the reasons you wont come back. Too Muslim (get outside London, it isn’t the UK!), but to say you wont come back because of supposed high UK violence is ridiculous, and frankly, from an American, is just ironic and bizarre.
To be lectured on violent society by an American, I don’t know whether to laugh or just roll my eyes.

Ever stopped to think that the reason you wander around with concealed carry is because your own nation is so violent?. Yet you are scared to come to the UK and you are seriously suggesting we’re some violent hellhole?.

The UK is a safe country to visit and live in.

Oh, and you ARE lazy. As I point out all the time, that there are 2.3 million guns in the UK, and that I am the owner of two.


40 posted on 06/26/2014 3:42:47 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: the scotsman

Your argument is so full of holes it’s difficult to find a starting place. There are lots of data that show Britain is the crime capital of Europe and that its crime far exceeds other countries, including the USA. Here’s one sampling, from the July 2, 2009 issue of “The Telegraph” (correct me if things have changed since its publication):

“UK is violent crime capital of Europe

“The United Kingdom is the violent crime capital of Europe and has one of the highest rates of violence in the world, worse even than America, according to new research.

“By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent 7:00AM BST 02 Jul 2009

“Analysis of figures from the European Commission showed a 77 per cent increase in murders, robberies, assaults and sexual offences in the UK since Labour came to power.

“The total number of violent offences recorded compared to population is higher than any other country in Europe, as well as AMERICA [emphasis added], Canada, Australia and South Africa.”

Note the words “violent offences.”

So, statistically speaking, YOU should be much more concerned than “I” on this matter. And I guess you are, having two guns. No?

As far as being amused that you are being lectured to by an America, well, Mac, just roll your eyes and laugh on, but the facts differ from your perception. Or, are you just a damn liar?

Regards,

OldPossum

P.S. I concealed carry for two reasons: 1) I can (you can’t, you know), and 2) it’s only prudent, not because I am deathly afraid of being assaulted—I’m not—but because a prudent man takes precautions, everywhere. Because I, like your fellow Brits, cannot carry in the UK or anywhere in the un-free nations of Europe, I prudently avoid it and them.


41 posted on 06/26/2014 5:05:10 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: OldPossum

A “2)” belongs in from of “Because” in the P.S. part


42 posted on 06/26/2014 5:07:11 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: OldPossum

You ignore the obvious: that the UK’s rise in crime (and at no point have I denied a rise) comes from a very low level of crime historically. Whats why even American media were shocked and picked up on the UK rise in the 2000’s.

Britain, even with historically violent cities like Glasgow and London, has always had a low level of crime. That’s why the British bobby was famous for only needing a trusty old truncheon, as the romantic myth had it. Murder (as it remains) was a rare event, and most crime was petty. Even British gangsters didn’t get ‘tooled up’ unless necessary. The murder of women, children, policemen was almost unknown.

Sadly, those days are gone. Yes, the UK is more violent than it was in 1950 or 1970. But Britain is still a safe country. I have explained why the UK-violence figures are high. The way they are collated skews them.

Even IF the UK is the crime capital of Europe, you should remember that the UK and Europe are nowhere near as violent as the US. Or even Canada. Being Euro violence no1 still means we have a long way to go to match North American levels of violence.

If we are talking figures, then lets do so. The British murder rate is 1.2 per 100000, that’s just 720 murders in a population of 60 million people a year. The biggest UK violent crime is burglary, not violence against the person. Gun crime and gun murder is a fraction (one 16th) of the US levels. SIX children in the UK get abducted and murdered a year, that level hasn’t changed since 1970!. Less than 40 get murdered a year by family.

I find it amazing that you think the UK is so violent now that you cannot actually come here safely. Are you seriously suggesting that you are safer living in the US?. Are you seriously suggesting the UK is a more violent country than America?. Really?.

Your country has a serious crime and violent crime problem, you are famous as the land of gun crime/murder, serial killers (75% of all serial killers past and present are American), drug gangs, inner city violence, spree shootings, school massacres.........and you are scared to come to little old Britain?. Do you honestly think you are going to be beaten and murdered in Scotland, Wales, NI, Stratford, Stonehenge, Windsor, or even downtown London?.

The millions of Americans who visit the UK and the hundreds of thousands who actually live here suffer no violence, don’t get murdered. Most find the UK to be a much safer and more civilised society.

‘So, statistically speaking, YOU should be much more concerned than “I” on this matter. And I guess you are, having two guns. No?’

Try again. I have owned those guns since I was 18 and 21. And I will be 44 this year. Nothing to with crime. I just like guns.

‘P.S. I concealed carry for two reasons: 1) I can (you can’t, you know), and 2) it’s only prudent, not because I am deathly afraid of being assaulted—I’m not—but because a prudent man takes precautions, everywhere. Because I, like your fellow Brits, cannot carry in the UK or anywhere in the un-free nations of Europe, I prudently avoid it and them’.

Wrong.

CC, albeit much less than the US, is allowed on the British mainland, with a CC permit. And in Northern Ireland, CC is openly allowed.

I find it actually sad that you give up the chance to visit great countries and friendly people just because you feel you have to have a gun strapped at your side. I find it sad that you seriously think the UK or Ireland or other countries are so violent that you cant come. You seem to have a very odd and distorted view and frankly little knowledge of the UK and other countries.


43 posted on 06/26/2014 4:16:17 PM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Please stop parroting the myth that the UK dosent have or exercise the right to self-defence.


44 posted on 06/26/2014 4:19:12 PM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: the scotsman

you don’t. what you may believe passes for self-defense there doesn’t pass here.


45 posted on 06/26/2014 4:21:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yes, it does!

I get really pissed off because in 2008, I was the actual victim of crime, and had to use that right to self-defence and use violence. For which all I got from police and courts was commendation.

The UK laws of self defence have in fact been strengthened twice in the last seven years.

We have always had to right to, I am sick of the myth we don’t. We are in fact allowed to kill an attacker if necessary. As a homeowner did last year in Manchester.

I am utterly sick and fed up of the crap Freepers and Americans post about the UK self defence law.

Sorry, but you are wrong.


46 posted on 06/26/2014 4:28:08 PM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: the scotsman

you do realize that for most countries prior to banning dueling, almost everyone carried some sort of arms.

see you uk folks nbever had the boy scouts, with the whole ‘be prepared’ motto. it’s always better to have something and not use it than to not have it and desperately need it.

but then again if you want to believe the socialist myth that government will always be there with the guns to protect you that’s fine. we don’t.


47 posted on 06/26/2014 4:29:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: the scotsman

okay. is there some place i can go to where one can read what the current uk self defense laws are? it would make my day to see that you can actually do that. also maybe what laws’there are to allow folks’to have guns, under what conditions. licenses, etc.

i’d definitely be’interested to see what’s on the books.


48 posted on 06/26/2014 4:33:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The UK didn’t have the Boy Scouts?.

WE INVENTED IT!.

God almighty, the ignorance of Americans never fails to astound.

The Scouts were founded by Lord Baden Powell. He was British. Got that?.


49 posted on 06/26/2014 4:36:20 PM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: Secret Agent Man

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19886504
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defence_in_English_law
http://www.bsdgb.co.uk/index.php?Information:Law_Relating_to_Self_Defence


50 posted on 06/26/2014 4:43:12 PM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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