We wouldn’t agree that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west but I’ll make one more stab at this, and come clean in the process.
You write:
“the UK and Europe are nowhere near as violent as the US. Or even Canada.”
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? The UK newspaper article clearly states that violent crime in the UK exceeds that of America, yet you blabber on that it’s the converse.
” I find it amazing that you think the UK is so violent now that you cannot actually come here safely.”
I don’t travel because I don’t trust the safety of the air transportation industry. They are not taking proper precautions for security. The Transportation Safety Administration is a joke and that is well-known in Internet social media circles.
Second, and here is where I come clean: I don’t particularly like your country anymore. You have allowed it to be overrun by Muslims, who are by their nature and religion, violent people. I don’t want to be among them, thank you very much.
I am fairly well-traveled, which may come as a surprise to you, having visited almost every Western European country, numerous Latin American countries, Russia, Ukraine, Japan and South Korea (the latter courtesy of the U.S. Army). I have no further desire to see them—or any other country, for that matter. Think of me as you wish, I don’t give a s#it.
Incidentally, I won’t drive to Canada for the very reason that I cannot protect myself with a gun (visited there twice in my 30s, never again). I won’t drive to Mexico because I am not insane.
You keep harping on murder but statistically one’s biggest danger is just plain old violent crime. When I walk out the door I am not concerned about murder, I am concerned about the possibility of a mugging, not that that happens much in my area, a conservative rural area of Virginia. Again, I point out that I am a prudent person who values my health and life.
Incidentally, I would bet that getting a concealed carry permit in the UK is an undertaking of the largest order. Here, OTOH, all one has to have is a clean criminal and mental health record and the $50 to pay for the five-year license; initially one has to have formal training in self-defense law and prove he can fire his weapon accurately and safely. Nothing else. It’s called “shall issue” in the parlance of the legislation passed by each state. “May issue” means that someone can use his discretion and deny the permit. Most states are “shall issue.”
I would add more thing. It’s in reference to your statement: “You seem to have a very odd and distorted view and frankly little knowledge of the UK and other countries.” You Brits have this very irritating arrogance often expressed in such declarations as “little knowledge of the UK and other countries.” It seems to be a British trait to think of people as not as worldly and sophisticated as you. We call it “snobbism.” Add that to my reasons for not wanting to visit your country.
To conclude, yes, I believe that I live in a safer country than you do...unless, of course, “The Telegraph” is lying.
Good day.
1—I have already gone in depth into UK crime. Its rise (which I never denied) and the types of UK crime. Also I explained why the UK violent crime figures are skewed. I also compared what crimes are more prevalent in the US and in the UK. I was am willing to discuss the different types of crime, and how they stack up vis a vis US-UK.
Your reply ignored all this I notice.
2—Burglary is about the only violent crime the UK ‘beats’ the US on. Murder, rape, gun crime, gun murder are all far more prevalent in the US. Our murder rate per 100000 is 1.2, yours 4.8. Our gun crime rates far lower, our gun murder one-sixteenth. And we haven’t compared serial murder, spree shootings, school shootings, domestic violence.......
3—You don’t like the UK?. OK. I still like America. A lot.
I cant wait to come back and travel more of your lovely country.
4—Overrun by Muslims?. Try again. I think you will find that 95.4% of the UK is NOT Muslim. And that the UK is still 92-93% white. And that three parts of the UK (Scotland, NI, Wales) have Muslim populations of less than 1%. And you wonder why I said you have a less than concrete grasp of Britain today?.
5—Oh good grief, what terrible experience did you have with the horrible Canucks?. I have never had any problem with them, and love the country. I have even considered moving there.
6—I just think its sad that you feel you cant go anywhere, even in your country, without CC. You feel its prudent, but it comes across as paranoid.
7—I use that British snobbery, because on here I read so much rubbish written about the UK, and find that whilst utterly ridiculous, its firmly believed by any freepers. I spend a lot of time, as do the other British and Irish freepers, correcting nonsense about Britain here on FR.
For an Anglophone site, some of the knowledge about the UK here is shocking. If its snobbish to lose my temper sometimes and rail against American ignorance, so be it.
To conclude, I believe I live in a far safer country than yours. I believe the UK does not come anywhere near the US in terms of all crime, when all crime is collated. I think its equally ridiculous to assert that the UK is a very dangerous and violent country (even if its more violent than in the past) and/or that the US is a nation with low crime and less violent than the UK.
To finish, here’s a little fact: in the 25 yrs of the terrorism in Northern Ireland (the IRA etc), 3000 people were killed by all the terrorist groups and by the British army/NI police fighting said terrorists.
That is LESS than the YEARLY murders in either Detroit or Chicago!. You were actually SAFER living in the one part of the UK with terrorism than you were living in an American city.....
I also know that there are many safe, non violent areas and parts of the US, only an idiot would believe that the
I really, really don’t want to seem as if I am bashing America. I am simply standing up for the UK.
I love America, love travelling in it, I love the diverse cultures and people, and above all the complete friendliness of the people all over. I have never had a bad experience in the US. Quite the opposite. Being Scottish and British.
I in fact lived in America from May 2004 to Aug 2005, in Florida, working for a Scottish/British company, and loved it.
I don’t want to give the impression that I am bashing or putting down America, that’s not my intent, but I worry that my posts here might give that impression.
If I have given that impression, I apologise.