Posted on 06/26/2014 9:39:41 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
The President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko declares that the present negotiations with Russia aimed at achieving peace in Ukraine, but on the full normalization of relations with Russia so far has, in view of the situation with the Crimea.
"Without the return of Crimea normalization of our relations is not possible. But we the people of the world. And why Ukrainian authorities, and I, as President, spoke with the peace plan, "he said at the session of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (pace) in Strasbourg on Thursday.
The Ukrainian President reminded that according to the results of prior telephone consultations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, French President Francois hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Russian President expressed support for his peace plan.
He noted that Kiev is waiting for such support, not in words but in deeds.
"And we are waiting for these actions. Strengthen border security, stop the illegal flow of technology, stop recruit mercenaries, in the end, pull the troops, "the Ukrainian President called on his Russian counterpart. Source: Interfax-Ukraine
Met him with applause, a standing ovation. In less than a week of Ukraine cease-fire, lives of 18 people have been claimed. He said that Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars are now discriminated against. With this war that no one has announced but is directed against us, asks will be either joint or disconnected from Europe, all Ukrainian desire answer to this question!
Main themes: -tomorrow the term "peaceful settlement" if weapons do not give up, do not pass-will start function (not said how) -tomorrow sign an association agreement the EU and Ukraine (applause While standing) -ban the COMMUNIST PARTY, as they are terrorism, the collaborators -early parliamentary elections (regional and local)
At this point Poroshenko’s words have proved shallow at best...what he says and does are two entirely different things. He cannot continue to defy the cease-fire and expect to be believable.
It is clear that Putin is ready to back off but it is not the case for Kiev.
They have Biden’s son in Kiev as a gas tycoon now and posed to attack Russian interests using this situation regardless any attempts to seize tentions.
Added to the heap are the Oligarchs with their personal army's fighting for the Eastern and Southeastern territory they believe they are entitled to keep. ( Mafia style).....not to mention some of them have personal vendetta's against Putin when he stopped their scams in Russia, so they are inciting anything which can make Russia look like the bad guy in all this.
The gas is in the East as well, so no doubt Keiv (Bidens Son as you said) has dibs on it and supporting anyone who'll keep the heat on Russia...the last thing they want is for the people to become a part of Russia. But in reality they could give a crap about the people or the infrastructure there....they can get the gas without it.
Added to this by bombing it all to heck, they've forced the Russian people to flee to Russia....thus eliminating the population which Porsh and the Right sector see as a thorn in their side.
In the end I see nothing favorable coming for the Ukrainian population...rather the US/EU/Nato and the Oligarchs will and are reaping their country of anything and everything of value....it will be a debtor nation full of austerity which will impoverish the people far worse than they were before...and already is.
Interesting possibilities ahead...
Putin has asked Russia’s parliament to revoke a law authorising him ‘to use military force’ in Ukraine...and I understand it’s been granted.
Interesting is Putin is again ahead in his steps... because according to International Law, with the authorization for military force off the table, Putin can now freely go into Ukraine for humanitory purposes and there’s nothing Nato can do if Poroshenko moves to plan B, the cutoff date, and starts bombing again.
Interesting possibilities ahead...
Putin has asked Russia’s parliament to revoke a law authorising him ‘to use military force’ in Ukraine...and I understand it’s been granted.
Interesting is Putin is again ahead in his steps... because according to International Law, with the authorization for military force off the table, Putin can now freely go into Ukraine for humanitory purposes and there’s nothing Nato can do if Poroshenko moves to plan B, the cutoff date, and starts bombing again.
“Putin has asked Russia’s parliament to revoke a law authorising him ‘to use military force’ in Ukraine...”
When asked about this, Putin said “Lugansk is not part of Ukraine....” That likely applies to Donetsk, as well, as the Russian position.
IMO, he is making it clear he doesn’t want to invade “Ukraine”, namely Kiev, (Why would he want to swallow an even greater economic basket case?), by revoking his already “legally approved” right to do so, at the same time laying the ground for helping the DPR/LPR.
He can say that he has “done everything he could” to assure peace, and must now act.
Crimea, Lugansk, and Donetsk, the majority-ethnic Russian areas, end up in the Russian sphere of influence and control, along with almost all of the economic assets (coal,gas, nickel, the steel mills, the defense industries, etc.) the IMF wanted to “assure” its loans to Ukraine, and Europe gets to deal with the corrupted and bankrupted rest of the country.
Eventually, a disgruntled populace in Ukraine, again on the losing end, and watching things get worse economically after they were promised cake and roses, again overthrows the Gov and returns to the Russian sphere. Or get folded into Poland, Romania and Hungary.
All because of the meddling billionaires, and Obama’s failed foreign policies.
Machiavelli must be smiling from above, he could have written the scenario himself.
By the way, I called the above scenario on Day One, on Jim Robinson’s thread, the day after the Government fell in the coup.
Had Putin wanted to invade he would have done so long beforehand.....and had the EU/US really wanted Ukraine under Nato that too would have been done long ago. Ukrainians were taken for a ride, courted and coerced... to their own ruin yet again, unfortunately. Your wrote:...."Crimea, Lugansk, and Donetsk, the majority-ethnic Russian areas, end up in the Russian sphere of influence and control, along with almost all of the economic assets (coal,gas, nickel, the steel mills, the defense industries, etc.)....the IMF wanted to “assure” its loans to Ukraine, and Europe gets to deal with the corrupted and bankrupted rest of the country."
and continued:...."Eventually, a disgruntled populace in Ukraine, again on the losing end, and watching things get worse economically after they were promised cake and roses, again overthrows the Gov and returns to the Russian sphere. Or get folded into Poland, Romania and Hungary...........All because of the meddling billionaires, and Obama’s failed foreign policies."
And that's exactly how it will play out as I see it too.
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