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Mexican Military Helicopter Enters US, Shoots at Border Patrol Agents
Breitbart ^ | 06/27/2014 | Kristin Tate

Posted on 06/27/2014 1:50:39 PM PDT by Rusty0604

HOUSTON, Texas--Breitbart Texas has confirmed that on Thursday morning a Mexican military helicopter flew into the U.S. and shot at Border Patrol agents.

U.S. Customs and Border Patrol provided Breitbart Texas with a statement that said, "At approximately 5:45 a.m. Thursday morning, a Mexican law enforcement helicopter crossed approximately 100 yards north into Arizona nearly 8 miles southwest of the Village of San Miguel on the Tohono O'odham Indian Nation while on a law enforcement operation near the border. Two shots were fired from the helicopter but no injuries or damage to U.S. property were reported. The incident is currently under investigation."

According to a report from local media outlet KVOA, Mexican authorities reportedly apologized to the U.S. subsequent to the fired shots.

It may be easy to label the crossing of armed Mexican authorities as ironic, given that in April, U.S. citizen and Marine Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi was imprisoned in Mexico.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; borders; bordersecurity; drugcartels; immigration; invasion; mexicomilitary
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1 posted on 06/27/2014 1:50:39 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

And this is the group who are holding our Marine indefinitely for accidentally crossing into their hellhole with guns?


2 posted on 06/27/2014 1:55:15 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Rusty0604

Awaiting the massive response by FedGov. Should I hold my breath?


3 posted on 06/27/2014 1:55:34 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Rusty0604

We should be using our military choppers to go get our Marine. I bet 200 years ago the Marines would have.


4 posted on 06/27/2014 1:58:08 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Rusty0604

338 Lapua round through the cockpit ought to send a message....


5 posted on 06/27/2014 2:02:06 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: CodeToad

100 years ago they probably would have. It is unbelievable how this administration lets Mexico push us around. The Mexican military is so corrupt the cartels and coyotes probably bribe them into making these “mistakes”, knowing that U.S. doesn’t care.


6 posted on 06/27/2014 2:04:48 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
MANPAD!

End of discussion.

Regards,
GtG

7 posted on 06/27/2014 2:06:12 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: CodeToad

I bet thirty years ago the Marines would have gone in, but that would not have been necessary under Maximus Reagan.


8 posted on 06/27/2014 2:08:04 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Rusty0604

Why does our government allow this? Had this been done by Al Qaeda, retaliation would be swift. Why does Mexico get a pass?


9 posted on 06/27/2014 2:09:25 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Rusty0604
Why aren't they reporting that after shooting at us, that an entire Squadron of USAF F-16s shot down the offending Mexican aircraft?

Oh I forgot we gave a Liar in Chief, and no such action will take place so long as he's in office.

10 posted on 06/27/2014 2:09:35 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Rusty0604

Headline should read:
MEXICO COMMITS ACT OF WAR.


11 posted on 06/27/2014 2:10:59 PM PDT by IC Ken
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To: Rusty0604

12 posted on 06/27/2014 2:15:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Rusty0604

I really think this a mole hill. Yes the chopper should have known where it was at and yes it should not have fired on our guys .... but ...

only two shots fired and the chopper disengaged right away and Mexico apologized. Considering that the action took place in the half light of early morning and having been an Infantryman on a helicopter, I can tell you it is easy to make a mistake.


13 posted on 06/27/2014 2:20:49 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Rusty0604

Shoot it down!


14 posted on 06/27/2014 2:24:14 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Vendome
338 Lapua round through the cockpit ought to send a message....

I was thinking more along the lines of the transmission case. I realize that in the summer the Rio Grand can be shallow in places, but do they really expect us to believe that they didn't see it?

15 posted on 06/27/2014 2:24:20 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: taxcontrol

This isn’t the first time they made this mistake. Sounds like a good diversion for our Border Patrol so some drugs/illegals can sneak in.


16 posted on 06/27/2014 2:25:01 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: SandRat
Why aren't they reporting that after shooting at us, that an entire Squadron of USAF F-16s shot down the offending Mexican aircraft?

That would only take 1 F-16. I would advise that the rest of your squadron take out the helicopter's base.

17 posted on 06/27/2014 2:26:12 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

This happened in AZ. No Rio Grande, just open desert.


18 posted on 06/27/2014 2:31:15 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Rusty0604

You know what this is? They see nobody is at the helm in the White house so it’s a free for all. Stampede towards the border, gangs coming in, taking pot shots at border agents. Same with Iraq. They can do anything they want, and they know nobody is going to stop them. Right now there’s the perfect storm going on in NYC. It’s the bullseye for terrorists and the Mayor there just put an end to Islamic surveillance. That combined with this fool in the White house who is letting anybody and anything over the border - It’s only a matter of time. It’ll be interesting to see the excuses liberals come up with if 100,000 people are killed this time.


19 posted on 06/27/2014 2:32:05 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Rusty0604

Shoot back!


20 posted on 06/27/2014 2:34:20 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: sean327

Why didn’t we reply with a Thunder Bolt eating them?


21 posted on 06/27/2014 2:36:54 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Vendome

“.338 Lapua round through the cockpit ought to send a message....”

Excellent choice, esp. if it got both the pilots.


22 posted on 06/27/2014 2:38:31 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Vendome
338 Lapua round through the cockpit ought to send a message....

Maybe we should arm the Border Patrol with Stingers.

23 posted on 06/27/2014 2:40:56 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: sean327

I looked at the header below the title. That said Texas. My bad.


24 posted on 06/27/2014 2:44:18 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: taxcontrol

BULLSH!T!!! If shots were fired at our border agents or ANYONE ELSE for that matter, Mexico should feel the heat.

There’s a dirt road that parallels the border and crossing it put these invaders in the USA. ANY shots fired is UNACCEPTABLE.

That a US Marine is being held in a Mexican prison for mistakenly crossing into that sh!thole of a country, which is magnitudes less of a direct action than this flagrant border crossing, is all the more reason to be outraged.

The view from a helo is without equal. I spent some time in Army UH-1’s, UH-60’s, CH-47’s & CH-54’s & Marine CH-53’s. It is demonstrative of a feckless occupier of the White House, and a total lack of respect for the USA.

Here’s a link to a publicly obtained map with a clear view of the border south of San Miguel, AZ. There’s even a vehicle visible on the road when viewed using the satellite option. Any military aircrew should have at least comparable information at their disposal.

http://www.bing.com/maps/?FORM=Z9LH2#Y3A9MzIuNjE1MDcwfi0xMTEuOTg1MjM3Jmx2bD04JnN0eT1y


25 posted on 06/27/2014 3:00:58 PM PDT by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: Rusty0604

Apparently it was a war on drug operation in the first place.


26 posted on 06/27/2014 3:04:54 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Rusty0604

Need to supply the Border Patrol with a few Stinger ... randomly so the taco boys are kept on their toes.


27 posted on 06/27/2014 3:09:14 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Surgeon General Warning: Operation of Government Motors vehicles may be hazardous to your health)
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To: al_c
Why does our government allow this? Had this been done by Al Qaeda, retaliation would be swift.

Not with the current administration.

28 posted on 06/27/2014 3:17:12 PM PDT by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: al_c

Well first they would have to determine if the Al Qaeda were moderates or not.


29 posted on 06/27/2014 3:20:32 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: dware
Awaiting the massive response by FedGov. Should I hold my breath?

Response is in:

Flight Global

Meanwhile, Mexico has been granted approval by the US government under the Foreign Military Sales process for the acquisition of five UH-60Ms, plus engines and other equipment, in a deal worth $225 million.

The nation will use the rotorcraft for anti-narcotics operations, according to the US Defense Security Co-operation Agency.


30 posted on 06/27/2014 3:31:33 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: taxcontrol
...in the half light of early morning...I can tell you it is easy to make a mistake.

So what did the Mexicans think they were firing at if not the US Border Patrol?

31 posted on 06/27/2014 3:46:45 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: luvbach1

“So what did the Mexicans think they were firing at if not the US Border Patrol?”

Drug smugglers


32 posted on 06/27/2014 3:48:16 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: taxcontrol

What, exactly, where was the chopper shooting at? It is not an “easy mistake to make”. The border is not a combat zone for which choppers just open fire.


33 posted on 06/27/2014 3:52:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: taxcontrol

Did you often fire your weapon before you had positively identified your target? Did you often fire at people who hadn’t fired at you first?

If you made a practice of that on board any aircraft I commanded I’d have tossed your ass out the door.


34 posted on 06/27/2014 3:55:06 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Fuzz

Do they routinely cross the US border to shoot at drug smugglers?


35 posted on 06/27/2014 3:59:44 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: luvbach1

“Do they routinely cross the US border to shoot at drug smugglers?”

I think we’d hear about it.


36 posted on 06/27/2014 4:17:02 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Tallguy

I realize that in the summer the Rio Grand can be shallow in places, but do they really expect us to believe that they didn’t see it?
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This happened in Arizona. No Rio Grande river there.


37 posted on 06/27/2014 4:20:52 PM PDT by octex
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas

Ah ... good point.


38 posted on 06/27/2014 4:26:49 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: CodeToad

According to the report from Mexico, they were doing drug interdiction. From a helicopter that means firing at ground targets.


39 posted on 06/27/2014 4:48:25 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Rusty0604

Somebody needs to tell our friends to the south that it’s all fun and games until the locals start shooting at them.


40 posted on 06/27/2014 4:49:18 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: freepersup

You are making the assumption that the Mexican military is as well equipped, trained and has the same resources that a US pilot / crew would have. I can tell you for certain that is NOT the case. Since they were running drug interdiction, likely they thought they were firing at drug dealers.


41 posted on 06/27/2014 4:51:18 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Lurker

You speak as if you were a pilot. I dont know but I will assume that as a fact. You would therefore know about all the training that our pilots receive and how we work to verify our targets. The US military is one of the most professional, well trained organizations in the world.

Even so, there are multiple documented incidents of friendly fire from helicopters. Perhaps you remember the US friendly fire incident from the AH-64 in 1991?

Now given that the Mexican pilots don’t have near the training, equipment, skills or professional pilots that the US military does, and considering that they were conducting drug interdiction operations, it is very easy for them to confuse targets.

I applaud the pilot / crew for realizing there error, stopping the firing (two rounds), pulling back and then taking ownership to their government for the mistake.


42 posted on 06/27/2014 4:59:41 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: luvbach1

According to the report, they were involved in drug interdiction operations.


43 posted on 06/27/2014 5:00:45 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Rusty0604

Probably just a diversion tactic while some large drug shipment was coming across. Maybe the chopper even made a drop.


44 posted on 06/27/2014 5:15:45 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: taxcontrol

They were 15 yards from a vehicle with 4 border agents inside and they fired at the vehicle.

The shooting, let alone the border crossing, was inexcusable and unprovoked.


45 posted on 06/27/2014 5:33:45 PM PDT by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: freepersup

I am curious where you got your information of 15 yards from the vehicle. I did not see that detail either in the article or the referenced news report from Tucson News 4. Perhaps you have some other link or source that you can share with us?

What I did see in the article is that the helicopter crossed only 100 yards (300 feet) into US territory. That is just a second or two at 80 mph.


46 posted on 06/27/2014 7:06:29 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

How do you know it was going 80? Not 50 or 35?


47 posted on 06/27/2014 7:07:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

or even faster, how about 90 or 120?

300 feet is nothing for a helicopter. But to counter point a slow moving helicopter, is the simple fact that a helicopter is MOST vulnerable when moving slow. According to the report, they were involved in drug interdiction operations. Drug cartels and their soldiers have no problems shooting at helicopters. Pilots know this so it is far more likely that the helicopter was moving with some speed rather than just sitting there waiting to be shot at.


48 posted on 06/27/2014 7:12:30 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/06/27/report-mexican-military-chopper-crosses-into-us-shoots-at-border-agents/

I got the link from another thread on the same subject.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3173052/posts?q=1&;page=101


49 posted on 06/27/2014 7:24:32 PM PDT by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: freepersup

Ok, that was information I did not have. 15 feet, even in reduced viability should have been enough to identify the target.


50 posted on 06/27/2014 9:45:09 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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